Taysir385 t1_iut66s9 wrote
Reply to comment by Helpful-Substance685 in Homeless People in Lancaster CA Are Being Forced to Live in the Desert by xCeladon
> the homeless have moved in droves (hundreds of trailers and tents) to my neighborhood. There is trash everywhere, crime has spiked out of control, convenience businesses like 7eleven have closed because they were being robbed every week.
You don't have a problem with the homeless, friend. You have a problem with with thieves, litterbugs, and other criminals.
Helpful-Substance685 t1_iut8lk4 wrote
These things hardly happened until the homeless came to the neighborhood. It was not dirty and there was little crime. Correlation and causation are one in the same here.
It is a problem of homeless thieves, litterbugs and criminals that moved into my area 2+ years ago. If a problem didn't exist before they were here then their presence is causing the problem.
Taysir385 t1_iuthmw7 wrote
> These things hardly happened until the homeless came to the neighborhood.
No, these things never happened until the criminals came to the neighborhood.
Or are you seriously arguing that 100% of unhoused people are criminals?
Helpful-Substance685 t1_iutjf3k wrote
Nope.
But clearly you are seriously trying to troll or trying valiantly to miss the point. I don't know who the criminals are within the groups that moved in but I do know that these circumstances did not exist before those groups moved in.
I don't know how you like to live, but I don't want to live in a slum. California taxes (which I pay) are too damn high for me to have to live in filth and crime that neither myself, my neighbors nor the business owners in my area caused.
You can blame (or not blame) whoever you like but it doesn't change the fact that homelessness brings crime and filthy conditions.
Those are facts and that is the end of this silly conversation. Argue with yourself if you like.
Taysir385 t1_iuuir7z wrote
> You can blame (or not blame) whoever you like but it doesn't change the fact that homelessness brings crime and filthy conditions.
I genuinely hope that you yourself are never lumped in to a group of people you're not a part of, and blamed for their actions.
Stay safe, friend.
Helpful-Substance685 t1_iuuwcth wrote
You are saying that every person and situation should be treated individually and with dignity and you are 100% right about this.
I'm saying that my neighborhood has changed drastically for the worse because of a huge migration of people to my area. I didn't say everyone in that group is a criminal but crime has risen drastically and I didn't say everyone in this group litters but it looks like a landfill right around the corner from my house right now.
Your perspective (how an individual unhoused person is judged) and mine (how I'm affected by a drastic change in crime and trash in my area) are from different conversations and really shouldn't be addressed together.
Our goal is the same though. Help every single person in the way they uniquely need to be helped so that all of our issues can be addressed simultaneously.
You stay safe too and I hope you have a good night or day wherever you may be.
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