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Daylightsavingstimes OP t1_iyluxfe wrote

>The Arizona secretary of state's office has been urging the county to complete certification by Thursday in order to avoid causing additional delays to preparations for the statewide certification of midterm election results. State officials have warned of the possible exclusion of the county's tens of thousands of votes from the official results if they are not certified by the board in time.

>Before backing down and voting to certify at the board's emergency meeting, Judd called herself "a rule-of-law person" who had to ultimately support making the election results official because of the court ruling and "my own health and situations that are going on in our life."

>"I am not ashamed of anything I did," Judd added.

She and Crosby damn well should be for trying to suppress voters. Ironic too considering they're both Republicans in a largely Republican-voting area.

But they hoped the exclusion (that they would have caused) would happen so they could turn to their constituents and scream, "See!? They don't think your vote matters!!"

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good_luck_fucker t1_iymnsvq wrote

i think it's even more insidious. i believe the whole purpose was to sacrifice those seats (while having enough of a majority that it won't revert control of the house back to dems) in order to set the precedent that it was even possible for a county to not certify without suffering any consequences. the next step would be to use the fact that they got away with it in this case to refuse to certify democrat wins when and where it could change the outcome of a presidential election.

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seesaw242 t1_iymxh8v wrote

I think it is/was more insidious than that actually. I'm guessing they are just trying to set the stage to pass legislation to take certification responsibilities away from county officials. Sacrifice a rep county so the rep legislature can push the pesky dem counties out as they choose in future elections. Set a precedent and then lean into it. I'm not sure if they just got too much pressure internally to follow through or if this was just the first skirmish testing the idea.

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kaminari1 t1_iyn4ty6 wrote

And this will now be happening every election because Republicans are stupid ass babies.

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outerworldLV t1_iynu7s4 wrote

Every election in AZ maybe. But it seems to be what the constituents want in some county’s. And your reason is absolutely right.

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Yusbhere t1_iymqcwv wrote

Once the selfish fascist republicans realized they would be losing a house seat, amazingly they determined there probably wasn’t any problem with the elections.

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shim_sham_shimmy t1_iyngotz wrote

I'm so sick of Republican political theatre. Judd refused to certify because it implies there is a problem with the votes. Just like when Republicans across the country wanted recounts (and then repeat recounts) in 2020. The average person would think if they're doing recounts, then there must be something really suspicious about the results.

If Judd honestly thinks there is a reason to not certify the election, then I say present your evidence and stand firm. As a Dem, I would be fine with that as a voter. I don't want an election certified if it has legitimate issues.

The problem is there is no evidence. Kari Lake can stand on a stage and publicly claim the election is rigged all she wants. She knows her supporters don't care about evidence. But to get away with not certifying an election, you need to actually present evidence or you're violating the law. Judd wouldn't buckle if she had evidence (and I wouldn't want her to).

The sad thing is I'll bet the average Arizona Republican won't walk away thinking Judd just wasted their tax dollars, made Arizona look stupid nationally and needs to be replaced. They'll say not only was there mass cheating by Dems, which cost Lake the election, but now they won't even let us investigate it!

Soon enough we'll get more Republican political theatre involving Hunter Biden. The guy seems like scumball and I couldn't give two shits about him or whether he goes to jail if he broke the law. My issue is nothing Hunter did likely has anything directly to do with Joe Biden. But the fact they investigating Hunter implies Joe did something wrong which is all Republicans care about.

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NomDePlume007 t1_iymkyz2 wrote

They realized that not certifying votes from that county would result in a Republican loss, so they swiftly changed course. Not without obligatory whining, however.

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justforthearticles20 t1_iyn2ksc wrote

As soon as they were told that holding out would flip a US House Seat Blue, they were just waiting for a judge to let them save face.

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Th3truthhurts t1_iymz6wm wrote

I hope that the justice that follows their actions is swift and sure.

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