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HanaBothWays t1_j111d8e wrote

Reply to comment by PatrickBearman in Mother facing charges after allegedly cyberbullying her own daughter by Hour_Doughnut2155

Dude, I hear the argument “abortion would prevent children from being born to abusive/unfit parents” all the time, it is not something novel. Hundreds of people say this every day! It is a stock argument for abortion rights and not a good one!

It is also gross to bring up because the idea that abortion is a way to solve the problem of “unfit parents” has its roots in eugenicist thinking. And “forcing people who might be unfit parents to get abortions or be sterilized” is not just some theoretical thing, this country was doing it officially through the 70s and unofficially through the 80s or 90s.

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PatrickBearman t1_j1457ha wrote

>Dude, I hear the argument “abortion would prevent children from being born to abusive/unfit parents” all the time, it is not something novel. Hundreds of people say this every day! It is a stock argument for abortion rights and not a good one! >

Well if you've seen it then I suppose everyone else has. Next time I'm considering discussing something I'll make sure to dm you to avoid wasting time posting something that everyone has seen.

>It is also gross to bring up because the idea that abortion is a way to solve the problem of “unfit parents” has its roots in eugenicist thinking. And “forcing people who might be unfit parents to get abortions or be sterilized” is not just some theoretical thing, this country was doing it officially through the 70s and unofficially through the 80s or 90s.

I'm aware. I'm also aware that you're grasping at straws trying to connect my comments to forced abortion. It's almost like you had a knee jerk reaction to something and decided to double down with extreme hyperbole. I never once presented abortion as a solution to "unfit parents." In fact, I said quite the opposite. I'm aware of the history of forced sterilization.

You're the one viewing this as a binary issue. Meanwhile, I outright stated that this is a complex issue and openly agreed with you multiple times. My comments simple mentioned one part of the issue. But hey, why read what someone writes when you can be an arrogant, condescending asshole who makes up arguments for someone who is clearly sympathic to your cause.

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HanaBothWays t1_j149hyt wrote

> Well if you’ve seen it then I suppose everyone else has.

Unironically yes.

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PatrickBearman t1_j14z4ac wrote

It's not everyday someone enthusiasticly perpetuates the "smug lib" stereotype, but I'll be damned if you aren't trying your best.

Good luck with making up shit to be aggressively angry over.

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