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SsiSsiSsiSsi t1_j0xmedi wrote

Good luck with that, India isn’t exactly becoming more tolerant or accepting these days, quite the opposite. It’s a shame, but as long as Modi and the BJP are running the show, it’s a trend that will continue. Given how popular both the PM and party are, I’d assume that’s just what India is going for overall.

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darthveda t1_j0xt2zl wrote

so these actions speak something else?

https://www.timesnownews.com/mirror-now/in-focus/in-a-first-up-govt-to-conduct-transgender-census-register-them-for-welfare-schemes-article-91216568

https://newsum.media/uttar-pradesh-government-to-include-transgender-studies-in-the-school-curriculum/

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throwreddit666 t1_j0zx0p6 wrote

Please refer to Sushil Modi's speech in Parliament day before yesterday.

Please note the lack of any stand taken by the Union govt in the petitions seeking decriminalization of homsexuality. This was both the Congress and the BJP govts.

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UrsusRomanus t1_j0xuume wrote

Neither of those are federal.

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posterofshit t1_j0xxqae wrote

It's by the BJP government though and that's what OP mentioned

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GayIconOfIndia t1_j10ylrg wrote

The government in UP is more right wing than Modi’s federal government tho

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Mahameghabahana t1_j12e1oj wrote

UP government or CM Yogi is far more conservative or right wing then modi. If you think modi as right wing then he would be far right. Yes but he do show emotion and get made fun of, our right wing guys cry more but get made fun of by left wing guys. But yeah there are more progressives in left wing but the problem is their largest target audiences aren't progressive.

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witchkingofriviaa t1_j173ebq wrote

Left is a joke in India. If someone is a leftie you already know that person is going to be a pajeet.

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Time-Opportunity-436 t1_j0y6ndc wrote

Nope.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender_Persons_(Protection_of_Rights)_Act,_2019

This act was passed in both houses, which have a BJP majority. American Right and Indian 'Right' wing are not the same, don't get confused.

Article 377 was legalised by supreme court in 2017, and courts are bigger than govt in India.

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throwreddit666 t1_j0zxcr5 wrote

>Article 377 was legalised by supreme court in 2017, and courts are bigger than govt in India.

Good fucking lord. Almost nothing in that sentence is correct and shows how little you know about what you are talking about.

Also, transgender rights is a separate issue to gay/lesbian marriage. Don't conflate issues. Transgenders have a unique position in Indian society for religious reasons. That does not mean gays and lesbians are not mistreated and discriminated against.

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Sunapr1 t1_j0xsm96 wrote

You know the supreme court is one of the liberal courts out there and this petition is before the SC, not sure why you bought government into the argument. Plus because of coalition government ruling party dosent require a majority of votes. Modi won the prime minister role by garnering 34 percent of electoral votes

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Mahameghabahana t1_j12e8oj wrote

That's how parliamentary system work bozo. That 34% is far more then any other political parties.

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Sunapr1 t1_j13nhq8 wrote

I agree but its not like a popular vote majority

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Envenger t1_j0yjlmu wrote

Bjp has been been liberal than the congress goverment we had. Even though I don't like cult of personality leaders, in India left and right mean different compared to usa. Congress was equally crazy about media censorship, and other rights issues compared to Bjp.

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NazgulDiedUnfairly t1_j0zi473 wrote

Although I agree that the Modi government is not exactly the most tolerant, the conservative ideals are not the same as conservative ideals that exist in the USA and the West.

They do share some ideas like nationalism, religious intolerance against religions like Islam(but generally accept other religions like Sikhism). But they differ in terms of other ideas. Like abortion is legal and not under attack some 1971 I believe(please correct me if I am wrong here). Article 377, which targeted homosexual sexual activities was also declared unconstitutional by the Supreme Court.

BJP government has taken steps for women empowerment, although they regressed in terms of secularism. So there is still hope that this will pass. Fingers crossed

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FrodoCraggins t1_j0zb29w wrote

The same people against Modi and the BJP are the same people fighting against legalizing gay marriages.

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onioning t1_j108yu7 wrote

India is more complicated than that. The current nationalism they're experiencing is a historical anomaly. For most of the area's history they've been a hotbed of diversity and even celebrated their diversity. Overall the region is one of the world's shining examples of people of different beliefs and ways of life working together for mutual cooperation. Of course the British threw a giant monkey wrench into the whole thing by splitting the region into religious regions, and that has for sure caused a lot of conflict, but even then the conflict was more about nationalism than religion. It's the last couple decades where we've seen nationalism rise up, and even explicitly Hindu nationalism.

Point being there's still a strong foundation of valuing diversity and inclusion. For sure they're under fire from the modern political movement, but that foundation doesn't just disappear overnight.

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Mahameghabahana t1_j12drlk wrote

Yeah sure congress would've legalise homosexual marriages right? Why didn't they did that? Do you know how socially conservatives their target voters are If you ignore metro kids.

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AtomicSymphonic_2nd t1_j0y3f0i wrote

I agree with you, honestly. I don’t foresee much future for non-Hindu/Buddhist Indian minorities in the nation of India.

Even the youth are happy with the BJP, at least as of 2019 pre-COVID.

I could have sworn I’ve read something a couple years ago pre-COVID about a lot of Indian Muslims uprooting themselves and seeking asylum in Bangladesh and Pakistan. Regretfully, I don’t have the link to that article… nor do I remember what it was titled.

It’s even more depressing to see so many Indians collectively say “good riddances” to these fellow countrymen in their faces.

It’s like one step forward and two steps back with humanity. Perhaps some of us here in the West were raised with a worldview that is a bit too idealistic.

EDIT: I’m dead wrong! My apologies everyone!

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Time-Opportunity-436 t1_j0y6tss wrote

How is Indian Muslims even relevant to the current discussion of same-sex marriages? By the way, marriages of Indian Muslims are governed by Muslim Personal Laws, which prohibit homosexuality. So even if India legalises same sex marriages, they won't be able to do so for Muslims.

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Irritatedtrack t1_j0y9ivk wrote

I would love a source on that? Minorities have the highest birth rate in india compared to the majority Hindu population. Muslims have their own law separate from Common Law (whether it is homo sexuality, transgender rights etc.). Not sure where you are from or how much knowledge you have about india, what you said is definitely not true.

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Izanaminomikoto19 t1_j0zi6xm wrote

It’s actually the other way round with Bangladeshi population coming into India for work.. prove your stats btw with the asylum request you just posted.

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Mogg-The-Twin t1_j117oxi wrote

He can't because he knows he'll be the laughing stock if he says " So and so Islamic scholar said so."

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