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ChallyPrime t1_j15nuqc wrote

Reply to comment by Draakan28 in Finland blocks sale of property near army garrison to Russian citizens. by FINCoffeeDaddy

Lots of Russians didn't vote Putin. Especially the young. It's either get sent to jail to be tortured or go to the front and get tortured/die, be conscripted and die, volunteer and die, or flee.

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Grouchy_Occasion2292 t1_j16ndsr wrote

I don't know man all their social media basically them being hateful to everyone in that area... And it wasn't like they weren't hateful to them before the war I mean I've seen videos of them literally going to Ukrainian streamers and harassing them. I'm not so sure that the narrative works.

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Maria-Stryker t1_j17el0m wrote

You should watch the YouTuber Nfkrz. He’s Russian but I’ve followed him for some time because he’s always voiced opposition to Putin’s policies, especially the homophobic ones. He left Russia shortly after the invasion, well before the conscription started. His perspective on the issue is quite fascinating.

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John_Sux t1_j197asy wrote

The Russian people have gravitated around "strong" authoritarian leaders for centuries for the perceived stability they bring.

It doesn't matter what that leader is called. Could be the tsar, the general secretary or now the president.

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HunterRoze t1_j166sar wrote

OR stay and fight back.

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ChallyPrime t1_j1679ze wrote

With what? People protested in large numbers in 2012. Most people are in fear or apathetic. And Putin's goons have the firepower and media. Russia would need to be much weaker internally. Oddly, China doesn't have as tight a grip on its populace despite more resources.

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Austoman t1_j167yxq wrote

People have been protesting in varying quantities and timeframes all year in Russia. There is still a sizable amount of people who are willing to fight back against Putin in Russia. Letting the wealthy escape sanctions by fleeing to unsanctioned countries defeats part of the purpose of saod sanctions.

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Grouchy_Occasion2292 t1_j16nkaa wrote

Yeah exactly. It's not like these are poor Russians these are going to be very rich people who actually need to face the consequences of something that they are responsible for.

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ChallyPrime t1_j16qnb2 wrote

There are people with the clothes on their back crossing borders. Haven't you seen videos of checkpoints? Most people aren't oligarchs.

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usrevenge t1_j16duj9 wrote

So send them back armed. There is no fucking way the entire border is being watched.

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tahlyn t1_j16d4yg wrote

Same as saying "be tortured and die."

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