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gnomewife t1_j18vsmq wrote

Reply to comment by UmpBumpFizzy in 17-year-old girl dies at treatment facility for troubled teens in Hurricane by ninjascotsman

I mean, I work in a PRTF. My favorite story from this last week was the patient who shoved salsa in his ears trying to trick the nurse into thinking it was blood so he could go to the hospital. I'm familiar with the issues often found in residential facilities.

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UmpBumpFizzy t1_j1955x8 wrote

Frankly, if you work in the sort of place where kids are brought in by private companies who are hired to burst into a terrified teenager's room at 2 am and physically drag them out of their home and onto a plane while the parents stand and watch, then I've got nothing more to say to you because you're one of the people ignoring the actually sick or injured children right along with Mr. Salsa Ears.

If you work in a treatment facility which is accredited and staffed with actual trained and licensed mental health professionals instead of ex-con "counselors", then you might want to look into just how awful the other places are.

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JanMichaelVincet t1_j196ezv wrote

She’s a religious nut from UT, I’m certain she believes she’s doing ‘the right thing’. I don’t miss my time in SLC and I feel for all the kids in Oakley, Provo, Hurricane, etc.

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UmpBumpFizzy t1_j198981 wrote

Considering how some of the worst of these facilities are indeed in Utah... Yikes.

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gnomewife t1_j19hzl1 wrote

Salsa Ears actually is really unwell, hence his placement at this facility. He has psychosis and frequent aggression, but therapy and medications are helping. He just doesn't have a brain bleed. I'm sorry if something I said triggered you, because I fully recognize how terrible some of these places are. I am acutely aware of the abuses that can occur to these children. I'm just not willing to throw judgment on this facility with such little information.

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[deleted] t1_j19mmoy wrote

Why am I not shocked that you’re a Christian and defending these types of facilities.

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gnomewife t1_j19mse1 wrote

Why am I not shocked that someone with no reading comprehension is creeping through my profile.

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[deleted] t1_j19nfwe wrote

It’s public information, stop deflecting

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dog_of_society t1_j1a8kh7 wrote

I'm not surprised he's trying everything he can think of to have a chance at getting out, even if it's to a hospital. I'm not willing to trust you with so little information.

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Painting_Agency t1_j19agu9 wrote

Where you work: "a non-hospital facility with a provider agreement with a State Medicaid Agency to provide the inpatient services benefit to Medicaid-eligible individuals under the age of 21"

What this is: "a boarding school for troubled teens"

You don't know what you're talking about.

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gnomewife t1_j19hn8m wrote

Please tell me at what point I said anything worth arguing over. All I said was that I was not willing to have an opinion on this without more information.

Edit: According to its website, Diamond Ranch Academy is accredited by the Joint Commission. I do wonder how recently CMS has come by for an audit.

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Painting_Agency t1_j19ihkb wrote

> I'm familiar with the issues often found in residential facilities.

You don't know shit all about the "troubled teen" industry or how it operates. How's that for starters?

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gnomewife t1_j19jv1v wrote

LOL. I'm an RTC employee commenting on an article about a JC-accredited RTC, but I'm the one who doesn't know what they're talking about. You're just arguing to argue.

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Painting_Agency t1_j19kox4 wrote

And you're defending what is, in all likelihood, a case of abuse or neglect in an industry where abuse and neglect are endemic. There are two possibilities: you've worked in an abusive "teen correction" facility and are yourself completely implicated, or you have not and don't understand how corrupt and dangerous they are.

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PuellaBona t1_j19lg8e wrote

Because they are part of the abusive system. Abusers never admit they're abusers.

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gnomewife t1_j19ltio wrote

You can't tell me where I'm defending the RTC, because at no point have I done so. You're so blinded by your desire to be right that you can't even read right now. Take a step back.

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i81u812 t1_j1a5slg wrote

It's probably your post history plus this.

State run treatment facilities are not what these are. Having lived in Utah I can confirm many of the folks there want these all to go away.

HOWEVER.

Some 'facilities' out there - like MSPA, and similar ones in the larger cities - are quite actually pre school for spoiled and sometimes nutty rich kids. No one here would want to hear that.

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gnomewife t1_j1aik7g wrote

Yes, my post history full of... what, exactly?

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