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bunbunzinlove t1_j33u3a1 wrote

No you don't understand. When they cross illegally it means they are going to hide all their lives, without any access to any kind of aid, medical assistance or education even for their children. It's generations and generations of people who will be eternal prey for anyone who want to exploit them. They will be and remain poor, without identity neither nationality for their children, who under such circumstances will never come to love their new country. They will never be heard because they will never have the right to vote, which also means that their situation will never change. The only change for them would be to lose everything again when they are found and deported. That's why they will remain in hiding and silent. It's a vicious circle. I'm French and I am an immigrant in an Asian country. Here they only accept a few immigrants but they totally take them in charge. They have full programs to learn the language while getting a training and also working part time to finance their living. At the end you get the qualification, a Visa sponsorship, a job and a place to live. They make sure that immigrants don't end homeless in the street and in fact yes I have never seen foreigners begging with their children in the streets like I saw so many in France. People like to criticize Japan but at least they don't boast everywhere that they will accept everyone and help everyone... just to open them their streets to beg or sell their bodies and that's all. You advocate for more legal immigration. I say the whole system has to be completely destroyed and rebuilt so that you don't end AGAIN with an hidden population of poor and disadvantaged people who will just stay that way all their and all their children's lives.

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SendMeMuffinRecipes t1_j344hji wrote

The US has birthright citizenship, meaning that the US-born children of people in the country illegally are automatically US citizens.

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[deleted] t1_j36elvw wrote

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SendMeMuffinRecipes t1_j36yrtx wrote

Did every one of your ancestors immigrate "the right way"?

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soapyhandman t1_j38cqd8 wrote

A large majority of countries do not recognize birth right citizenship including most European nations.

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SendMeMuffinRecipes t1_j38iwob wrote

That has nothing to do with the question I was asking u/SeattleHasDied. I'm not getting roped into a lengthy back-and-forth today.

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kittenpantzen t1_j364ljc wrote

We do, but we have also deported brown citizens before because they had a hard time proving their citizenship.

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BubbaTee t1_j34le57 wrote

>without any access to any kind of aid, medical assistance or education even for their children

If their kids are born in the US, they're automatically American citizens, with the same medical and educational entitlements as any other American.

> It's generations and generations of people who will be eternal prey for anyone who want to exploit them.

No more than any other American.

> They will be and remain poor, without identity neither nationality for their children, who under such circumstances will never come to love their new country.

If they choose to hate America, that's certainly their prerogative. They certainly won't be the first anti-American Americans to ever exist - heck, half the country tried to secede before.

> They will never be heard because they will never have the right to vote

Until they turn 18, then they can vote.

> The only change for them would be to lose everything again when they are found and deported.

No one born in America can be deported, unless they choose to renounce their residency rights.

> I'm French and I am an immigrant in an Asian country.

No wonder you have such an inaccurate image of how American citizenship works.

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