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TonightOk4122 t1_j3jwxc6 wrote

Friendly reminder for drinkers to not use acetaminophen (Tylenol). It's a bad combination.

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/322813

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Ericaonelove t1_j3k6moj wrote

My brother died from Tylenol, alcohol overdose. A very painful, and slow 4 day death.

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doppleganger_ t1_j3kd17b wrote

Sorry to hear that. My son tried to commit suicide by taking 45 paracetamol and the doctor said that without the antidote it would have been the same outcome for him.

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Ericaonelove t1_j3kn47j wrote

I’m so sorry. My brother did it intentionally, got scared and went to the emergency room, and they didn’t do anything. By the time he went to a different hospital, it was way too late. All his organs just shut down one by one. What a terrible way to go.

I really hope your son is doing ok, and in a better place now.

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whatsnewpussykat t1_j3kiabt wrote

I’m so sorry, that must have been unspeakably hard as a parent, and obviously your son must have been in such a painful spot to take that action. I hope you’re both doing well now.

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doppleganger_ t1_j3kj25h wrote

It was a tough time but we got through it. The guilt I bear for not doing anything about it when I first heard him vomiting, well, I don’t think about it much anymore.

He’s now the proud parent of two boys and will be moving into his new house later in the year.

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IentrancedI t1_j3kg4c4 wrote

I’m sorry for your loss similar thing happened to a close friend passed away on 4th day right before liver transplant was to be performed…She was like a sister and far too young. May God grant you healing, peace and ease.

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Pi6 t1_j3kg54h wrote

Ibuprofen is not much better with heavy alcohol intake. That combo destroyed my buddy's stomach and esophagus. Puking blood regularly is no fun. Sad reality is that aside from perhaps THC most of the painkillers we have are very bad ideas for alcoholics.

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metametapraxis t1_j3l1zsl wrote

Paracetamol is bad for anyone in anything exceeding the stated dose. Would not be licensed for over the counter use these days.

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No-Competition-9574 t1_j3lu4x3 wrote

Stop spreading disinformation. THC is not a painkiller. this has been well established in scientific study.

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riggo199BV t1_j3m969t wrote

Hmm...sure helps with my arthritis. Off all opiods now.

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drammer t1_j3md38r wrote

Here ya go buddy: https://www.canada.ca/en/health-canada/services/drugs-medication/cannabis/information-medical-practitioners/information-health-care-professionals-cannabis-cannabinoids.html

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ComprehensiveVoice98 t1_j3mlv42 wrote

I love cannabis and use it for pain, but I did find this recent study that found essentially there is no difference between a placebo and thc for pain relief, but it is more complicated than that I think.

https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/does-cannabis-actually-relieve-pain-or-is-something-else-going-on-202212082863

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No-Competition-9574 t1_j3mn4od wrote

I've heard people say that they drive better with cannabis and that it can cure cancer

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ComprehensiveVoice98 t1_j3modiq wrote

Yeah I mean, there are probably a lot of benefits that we haven’t discovered, but there are also side affects we probably aren’t aware of. IMO there is no such thing as a miracle drug and no one should be driving while high.

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drammer t1_j3mwdyq wrote

Been smoking cannabis for 50 years now with no adverse affects. Quit smoking tobacco 6 years ago and my lungs are fine now but I still smoke cannabis. You can not overdose with natural cannabis. It is not like hard drugs. We know the effects of tobacco on the body and the number of people it kills world wide but it is still legal. Same with alcohol. Sugar. Processed foods and so on.

And as a plant you can make everything from medicine, paper, rope, plastic, food, and many more things. And it grows quickly in all sorts of environments.

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ComprehensiveVoice98 t1_j3n2vvr wrote

Yeah there are definitely a lot of good things about it, it’s the only drug I use, I don’t even take over the counter pain killers. My whole family uses it and my dad has used it for 50 years ish as well. It’s much safer than other legal drugs, like alcohol and tobacco. However, due to the fact cannabis has been illegal for so long, there are side effects some users suffer that have not been studied. My dads doctor recently indicated there may be a link between his high blood pressure and cannabis use for example, as well as this digestive issue he’s been having. I still think the pros outweigh the cons, just saying there is more research that needs to be done.

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drammer t1_j3n6ewi wrote

That is true and can be said about most medications. I have lived in both the US and Canada. I know the Canadian government is very strict on approving new drugs, as in new to the system. Since legalization across Canada you find fewer than expected reports of cannabis related issues. Of course with driving we see far more alcohol related charges than cannabis. And other then stupid people leaving edibles out for kids to get, very few medical issues. Of course everyone reacts differently. I fully expect mushrooms will be legalized here shortly with microdosing being popular. Psilocybe cubensis and others in this family is even safer health wise than cannabis. Did you watch Dopesick? Look it up, great depiction of oxi contin.

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drammer t1_j3muvn5 wrote

I was a musician for years (70s/80s/some 90s) giging mostly across Canada so long drives and lots of cannabis smoked. I would rather be with a driver who smoked pot then drank. No cannabis can not cure cancer but it does help ease the adverse symptoms of treatments for cancer. CBD basically fixed my loss of Cartlidge in my knees but it takes a long time to work. And even my dentist approves of me using it to reduce inflammation after dental visits. SO CBD and THC for a hangover works very well. There are many more compounds in cannabis that the medical/scientific community are finding. https://bluebirdbotanicals.com/blogs/understanding-cbd/meet-your-cannabionoids

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Pi6 t1_j3mpk9x wrote

I don't know if you are nitpicking THC vs cannabis in general or if you are referring to a neurological definition of pain that isn't the common definition, but for the millions of us who get very effective relief for pain symptoms from cannabis, you sound like someone with a biased agenda, and frankly ridiculous.

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ChiggaOG t1_j3kskc9 wrote

Can confirm it’s not a quick effect like after 15 minutes. Taking Tylenol and Alcohol at the same time or even if you take Tylenol 15 minutes before drinking alcohol is a slow walk to saturating liver enzymes and creation of a toxic byproduct. People will be admitted to the floor due to seriousness of condition.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK441917/ This link is about acetaminophen toxicity. The only treatment for acetaminophen toxicity is acetylcysteine.

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pichiquito t1_j3kv7lx wrote

Could you take acetylcysteine to mitigate possible damage from the combo?

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ChiggaOG t1_j3mnwsi wrote

You are not likely to be prescribed acetylcysteine by your doctor beforehand if you intend to take a pill before getting hammered and then take Tylenol for the headache, like 1 hour after stopping to drink. I should also state that the chemical composition of N-acetylcysteine contains a sulfur group, meaning the medication will smell. It is known the tablet form is horrible to take.

Just keep drinking water to stay hydrated. I drank a bunch of Pedialyte to stave off a headache with better success than Gatorade.

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Extreme-Locksmith746 t1_j3mqahs wrote

I used to take N.A.C. as a health supplement it's an amino acid, and did not ever smell like sulfur, a bit like vitamins at worst. I took it on the basis it can help create glutathione, and reduce inflammation. It's actually one of the pills I will put in my mouth before finding water to drink since it tastes like a gelcap and then nothing if it dissolves. You can buy it at a health food store no dr. needed. No this doesn't mean you should od on tylenol or ever take it if you can avoid it.

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Duchs t1_j3l3mqj wrote

Paracetamol for non-Americans.

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technofox01 t1_j3li0ly wrote

Fuck...

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The number of times I have seen people do this and nothing happen is insane but cripe, after reading that article I will be spreading the word to those that do this. I didn't even know it was that bad for you to do.

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weedful_things t1_j3lmlmd wrote

Tylenol was my go-to hangover reliever for a lot of years. I popped a couple at least a few times a week. I stopped using it when this issue first came to light.

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