This feels like a new low for the US education system.

Did you read the article?

Yeah? It mentioned folks that suffer from missing prior education which is well... I mean do i really have to explain the context between bad prior education and generally bad education?

I gotcha. I thought you were referring to un-grading itself being the problem.

The ungrading is just the result to combat prior poor education and shows to what lengths they have to go.

Yeah I agree. I do think taking a different view of grading could be beneficial though.

For me I was homeschooled and college prep started in middle school so the transition to college school work was easy. The social aspects not so much.

definitely not oniony. Grades are a whole ass scam and do not at all reflect what you know. The people grading are incredibly inconsistent and a large portion of college grades is kissing ass and the vast majority of what the grade consists of is nonsense that wont ever be useful beyond college.

Think for 2 seconds about the real world. When you have to learn a new skill or be trained to do something for your job does your boss give you a grade? never. you just learn it and do it. The college money machine thrives off of separating students into classes and its just an overall terrible system. It especially profits off of people fighting and doing anything to meet arbitrary standards that have nothing but fiat value. Real educational value is virtually nonexistent anymore.

Instead addressing weaknesses in the education system and helping raise up people you have not had the resources that others have, we keep lowering the bar. Many colleges have eliminated entrance exams to allow those who cannot meet the standards entrance. We really need to try help those in need, and not lower our expectations.

> Grades are a whole ass scam and do not at all reflect what you know

While they are not really as useful as all that I also would not call them a scam.

Does your boss give you a grade? Yeah, it's called firing your ass if you can't do it.

I also lol'ed at the thought that colleges eliminating grades is anything other than at attempt to make more money. No grades, no cost to mark assignments, no failing out, these are all ways to increase profits.

Rather than address how difficult it is for current generations to survive in our society, we use another band-aid rather than address the root cause of high cost of living.

You just have to keep this in mind. Cs get degrees.

Unless you were at the top of your class at a very prestigious school, almost no employer cares what your GPA was.

I don’t think it’s about poor education as much as it is about mental health. For some reason, people think that kids today get Cs and it damages them.

Adapt to what?

Does that mean they’ll get fired from college if they fail?

But if you plan on going to graduate school at any point in the future, your grades matter a great deal.

“Don’t worry about your grades, we don’t. Party it up and pay us.”

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Participation Trophies and "Thanks for Playing" Degrees to be given to everyone.

Credit/no credit?

If you have Asian parents, anything less than an A is damaging to your health

Are they more damaging today than they were a generation ago? Can kids not handle it as well? What’s different?

It feels to me a lot like the various bullshit "progressive" (aka, not actually progressive) things that some school systems have pulled to try and (cheaply) pretend that problems don't exist instead of actually dealing with them.

It sounds good, but in practice, it's like decriminalization 2.0

I would say they also matter the most in your bachelors and then masters if you go doctorate. Tho it never hurts to stack up.

Dude other countries already do this

This is a mistake. They did it for K-12 during the first part of covid and the kids learned they won't have to do anything. It's not going to work. People need to be held accountable.

Nah. . . .

My husband had below a 3.0 and got into UM for an MBA, one of the top MBA programs in the country. If you are going to get a research based graduate degree right after your undergrad then grades matter. If you plan on getting a basic masters at some point then it doesn't matter.

I don’t understand the purpose behind this decision. Competition Breeds Excellence! It’s like playing a game where nobody keeps score…what’s the point of playing a game if everyone wins?

This is common practice in the UK. The last years of uni count much more toward your degree classification than your first.