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[deleted] t1_j6sf2tc wrote

Reply to comment by k1lk1 in New Yorkers witnessed more homelessness, encampments during Mayor Adams’ first year by Nscience

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Grass8989 t1_j6sfp02 wrote

That would he then rational response, but we have too many bleeding heart “activists” who think everyone should get an unlimited amount of chances with no repercussions. In the end, that only hurts the true “down on their luck” homeless trying to turn their lives around.

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[deleted] t1_j6sh8re wrote

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k1lk1 t1_j6siqn6 wrote

Yes - people talk of "the homeless" as if they were a monolithic group, but they're not. The vast majority of homeless are willing and able to catch hold of the lifelines we give them, and use them to get jobs, secure and retain housing, etc. That's like 90% or more. These are good people who are simply, as the cliche goes, down on their luck.

The remainder are those too fucked up to take advantage of the help we offer. Offering those people more kinds of help does nothing, they need a firm hand guiding them in a structured mental healthcare or addiction treatment environment, or a prison if they've been victimizing others.

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Bison256 t1_j6sym8p wrote

That's a great idea. Sadly there's not enough political will to fund and staff the institutions/hospitals.

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newestindustry t1_j6sjfkm wrote

Ah yes, the "Final Solution" for homelessness. Great idea!

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NetQuarterLatte t1_j6t2oez wrote

Given the funding, it's not a money problem. It's a policy problem resulting in bad allocation and utilization of the money.

That requires solutions in the policy space.

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TranquilSeaOtter t1_j6sjxs6 wrote

As opposed to the final solution of letting them die in the cold?

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newestindustry t1_j6skjrp wrote

Yes this is the same thing as putting someone in a concentration camp because they "made a scene at a shelter" (?)

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TranquilSeaOtter t1_j6ss94a wrote

We need mental health facilities and commit people who need to be committed. We need to work with those who can integrate back into society with therapy and drugs and for those beyond saving then yes, they and society are all better off if they are committed for life in a mental institution. Pretending that it's identical to Nazi concentration camps is beyond fucking stupid and incredibly offensive to those who survived said concentration camps and families of those who died in them.

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newestindustry t1_j6sl5zx wrote

Why do right wingers cite this made-up logical fallacy so often?

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