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DelTeaz t1_j6teq65 wrote

Reply to comment by co_matic in New Yorkers witnessed more homelessness, encampments during Mayor Adams’ first year by Nscience

The homeless problem will never be solved ever. Any time a city offers homeless services it just brings on more homeless people. It’s a continuous cycle. This is literally playing out with the migrant crisis too. We’re paying 500 a night for each of them to stay in hotels.

Maybe some day this city will stop throwing money at people that aren’t even from New York like much of the homeless and especially non citizens at the expense of taxpayers. You guys are lunatics.

How about we limit these programs to the community and residents they’re meant to support in the first place.

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co_matic t1_j6tfq0q wrote

It's this kind of thinking that will result in either Dickensian workhouses, concentration camps, or mass euthanasia for the homeless.

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DelTeaz t1_j6tgjh1 wrote

Imagine thinking that limiting homeless services to New Yorkers, which is the point I’m making, is a bad thing. You’re delusional. Might as well invade Switzerland at this point given your thinking.

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Longjumping_Vast_797 t1_j6worim wrote

Right? People can't see the nuance between some rules that create order and a nazi death camp. Pathetic.

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WickhamAkimbo t1_j6tln4x wrote

There are any number of counties around the world that generally speaking don't have a problem with this kind of homelessness. The difference is that they force people into treatment that need it and don't tolerate extremely antisocial behavior.

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Ok_Yogurtcloset8915 t1_j6uavb7 wrote

I think the actual difference, in a big picture sense, is that those countries attack these problems on a national level, which is really difficult for anything in the US by design. that other person is sort of right in that nyc offering more services/private rooms etc will not improve its situation, because this will absolutely attract more homeless people to go to nyc. the west coast and hawaii are both experiencing this effect right now.

the situation can never be resolved when every major metropolitan area is essentially in a standoff with all the others over who can be the least appealing to homeless populations. only federal intervention can fix it at this point. I don't know what the path to that is, but cities or states acting unilaterally only leads to an endlessly increasing bill for homeless services.

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DelTeaz t1_j6tstbh wrote

And they also don’t have unfettered immigration. No migrant crisis. Their resources are used for their own community.

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azeet94 t1_j6tztmk wrote

I would like to better understand how the migrant crisis directly relates to the homelessness crisis? Assuming you're referring to illegal migrants, the vast majority of homeless people I see (anecdotal) are white/black, not Hispanic/Asian (majority of immigrants)

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DelTeaz t1_j6u8qgz wrote

Because it’s the same principle. People are coming to the city to seek the services that are being offered at the expense of people in the community. Many of the homeless you see in the streets aren’t from New York.

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