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elizabeth-cooper t1_j8edh1y wrote

That's just not how any of this works. They can't write headlines like that. They could write, "John allegedly hit pedestrian with car" but that's not a fact.

"Person hit by car" is a fact.

"John allegedly hit person with his car" is speculation.

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newestindustry t1_j8eq8jx wrote

So would it be appropriate for me to say "you have chosen the dumbest hill possible to die on", or would i need an "allegedly" in there?

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thebruns t1_j8f03tm wrote

It's a fascinating example of "im not owned! im not owned!!", i continue to insist as i slowly shrink and transform into a corn cob to start the week off.

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cdavidg4 t1_j8eef5v wrote

A different scenario. A 6 year shoots his father with a gun.

Under your thinking, the headline should read "Father shot with gun" and not "6 year old shoots father with gun" as that's speculative.

We don't know intensions or if somehow the gun went off accidently or missfired or a strong gust of wind did it. A non-passive headline with all parties noted is more accurate.

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elizabeth-cooper t1_j8ef2w1 wrote

They write headlines like that all the time.

>Father of three shot dead after getting caught in hotel gunfight on visit to son’s college

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/paul-kutz-poughkeepsie-shooting-marist-college-b2195263.html

Shot dead by a gun not being held by a person?????

Obviously not.

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cdavidg4 t1_j8efnel wrote

And they also use the headline "Drive hits pedestrian" all the time.

https://www.denverpost.com/2023/01/08/denver-driver-hits-four-pedestrians-sidewalk-downtown/

So your statement that they "can't write headlines like that" is obviously false.

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elizabeth-cooper t1_j8eg2q2 wrote

They're quoting the police, which is very different than making their own determination.

>Driver hits four pedestrians on sidewalk in downtown Denver, police say

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cdavidg4 t1_j8egvl5 wrote

It's doesn't state intent or guilt so how is it different? It simply states fact.

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