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Die-Nacht t1_j9jwzbq wrote

Reply to comment by Green__Bananas in Parents fume over Governor Hochul’s charter school expansion proposal | amNewYork by barweis

Because the money comes from the same pot as the general education one. Additionally, unlike public schools, charter schools have all sorts of issues like kicking students out that don't perform well. This essentially means you aren't really trying to educate the public, you're just subsidizing a couple of already-well-educated students while filling the pockets of the administrators.

In general, it is just not a good system and just another way to defund (truly) public services for private gains.

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mikevago t1_j9jz29k wrote

> the money comes from the same pot as the general education one

But so do the kids!!! The mainstream schools get less money because they're educating fewer kids! The per-student funding doesn't change!

It's like complaining that your job doesn't give you a parking stipend because you no longer have a car.

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Die-Nacht t1_j9kbggu wrote

But it isn't. The charter schools can and do kick out kids. In fact, a common tactic we hear often about is charter schools taking in X kids, then taking in Y dollars per kid (X). But then, mid-way through the year, after all the checks have gone through, they kick kids out due to low performance or "because we don't have the means to handle children with mental disabilities", but do they give the money back? No. They keep it.

So the kid is now back in public school, but the money for them isn't there, it's in the charter school.

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mikevago t1_j9mxslq wrote

Well, it's easy to make that argument if you inflate the numbers ridiculously. You're not losing 30% of your kids or anywhere near that, and while public school enrollment is down, charter schools are a drop in the bucket:

Some non-made-up numbers:

Contrary to some theories, there’s no evidence that families are fleeing public schools in droves or for charters and private schools. While the city’s enrollment dropped by about 100,000 students since 2019 — not counting 3K — overall enrollment in city charter schools has grown by just over 10,000 students, or by 7.8%, since the pandemic started. And over that same time period, the city’s private schools actually saw a 3.6% drop in pre-K-12 enrollment, according to state data.

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plump_helmet_addict t1_j9tmjrj wrote

>Why the fuck is this so god damn hard for non teachers to get. Do you people just work in places where splitting things up doesnt INCREASE cost?

Because people care more about their kids' educations than the contentedness or wellbeing of teachers in a system that doesn't focus on their kids' educations. Sucks, but this is what happens when the public school system is so corrupt, bloated, and unable or unwilling to handle misconduct.

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