Submitted by jonnycash11 t3_11glr63 in nyc
Sickpup831 t1_japmhr3 wrote
Reply to comment by jonnycash11 in New York City Sanctioned Drug-Use Sites Reach a Crossroads by jonnycash11
Honest question: how can they claim to have prevented seven hundred overdoses when the nyc overdose numbers are at an all time high? Are they saying that they have had 700 people use their services therefor preventing their deaths?
PandaJ108 t1_japodyl wrote
700 number refers to instances of somebody overdosing, in which it was reverse. It does not necessarily it prevented 700 people from overdosing. One person can be treated multiple time and each time a overdose was averted, it counts towards the 700 number.
Other articles have said these sites are essentially visited by the same 2,000 people throughout the year. With those people accounting for about 40,000 visits to these sites.
Sickpup831 t1_japoshp wrote
So 700 people have gone to the safe centers, overdosed, we’re given Narcan or life saving treatment and told “thank you, come back next time!” I don’t know, the whole situation seems fucked up. I don’t want these people dying out in the streets but there has to be some middle ground here.
retiredfromfire t1_jarkfyc wrote
I dont think there is a middle ground. Most think that "thank you, come again" somehow encourages drug use, but lets remember these people are drug addicts, they dont need encouragement, they've got all they need. If its lives you want to save than yes if you have to Narcan em every week thats what you do.
Or leave them to the streets.
HotChunkySoup t1_jappo27 wrote
> I don’t want these people dying out in the streets
Then they were successful: These people didn't die.
If you want people to die, make them do drugs in the streets. If you dont want them to die, provide harm reduction.
Longjumping_Vast_797 t1_jaqua8m wrote
No. If the chance of death from doing a hard drug is 10%, and someone does it once, ODs, then gets brought back with narcan, it's a saved life. If that person is going to continue taking the same exact chance of death over and over, it's the exact same chance of death each dose.
HotChunkySoup t1_jatr2y6 wrote
> If that person is going to continue taking the same exact chance of death over and over
>same exact chance
Please google what "harm reduction" is. Sterile equipment in a supervised site does not have the same odds of typical street use.
Sickpup831 t1_jarcyb3 wrote
So these are supposed to be safe injection sights right? What you’re telling me is that 700 times, a professional, pumped someone with enough drugs to kill them just to treat them and save their lives.
TheAJx t1_jasgr7f wrote
> If you want people to die, make them do drugs in the streets. If you dont want them to die, provide harm reduction.
You think these people stop doing drugs once they leave th epremises of these sites?
HotChunkySoup t1_jatqox9 wrote
They're not supposed to keep people from doing drugs. They're supposed to keep people from dying from doing drugs.
TheAJx t1_jatsknr wrote
>make them do drugs in the streets.
drpvn t1_japyno9 wrote
Nobody will ever audit these numbers.
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