ChrisFromLongIsland t1_jb5h22j wrote
Reply to comment by fieryscribe in Police arrest suspect in rape of woman on the Upper West Side by dosmey
To me this has little to do with bail. It has to do with how on earth can it take 4 years to procecute someone for sexual assault. Assuming the description of the crime is accurate he should have been convicted in less than 6 months then in prison for a bit and would probably be out of prison by now. If can't take 4 years to procecute someone for a case that is not that complicated. This is not a super sophisticated crime. It's seems to be as routine as an unknown sexual assault case could be. The criminal justice system is broken not the bail system.
fieryscribe t1_jb5jvgp wrote
> To me this has little to do with bail.
I didn't say anything about bail. Even with a bail system, an adult (he was likely around 26 at the time) who was accused of trying to sexually assault a minor shouldn't have been let out on ROR.
FWIW, the Post adds:
> Online records show that he was ordered held on $250,000 bail during his initial court appearance in the case.
> It is not clear whether he ever made bail, but at trial in March 2020, he was ordered held without bail – only to be released on his own recognizance weeks later with an order of protection issued, online records show.
I do not know the details of this case beyond what news reports note, but I agree: this has taken too long. It may be appeals, Covid or whatever, but 4 years is unacceptable.
elizabeth-cooper t1_jb5l7e9 wrote
I've been following the case of an accused arsonist since he was arrested in 2019. Seems like this isn't necessarily so uncommon. Many of the delays are from the defense, especially if their client is free.
The arsonist? He may prefer being on Rikers to being sent up the river. If you think Rikers isn't fun, Sing Sing is even less fun.
fieryscribe t1_jb5leop wrote
Yeah, could very well be. I imagine there are a number of procedural delays, especially in a case such as that which involved eyewitness testimony. Covid may have also played a role after 2020.
PiffityPoffity t1_jb5nmuv wrote
COVID absolutely played a huge role. Courts had to cancel a bunch of hearings and trials, which then got rescheduled and pushed other hearings and trials back, etc. Courts were already struggling with the workload pre-COVID and they haven’t caught up since.
PauI_MuadDib t1_jb5zzem wrote
Our legal system, especially for sex crimes, has a ton of issues. Remember, the NYPD's sex crimes unit is even currently under federal investigation for how badly they handled investigations/reports of sex crimes, including filing wrong complaints, not doing even basic investigations or convincing victims not to report their sexual assault because detectives didn't want to do the work.
https://apnews.com/article/crime-police-new-york-sexual-assault-5c515e3b034e1e937689f37a063adb61.
Then add in that judges and prosecutors tend not to take sex crimes seriously either, and you've got situations like this.
familiarlikemymirror t1_jb688b0 wrote
I’m spelling sufisticated like this from now on.
thebruns t1_jb6a9rf wrote
I was recently called to jury duty for a case where the incident happened in 2018. It wasnt even a serious crime (not rape or murder). WTF does this take so long
1600hazenstreet t1_jb7uk1h wrote
Covid happened. the city was shut down for 2 years. Self inflected.
SumyungNam t1_jb9er7u wrote
I kept getting calls from the assistant da to testify before covid...after covid he stopped calling wonder if they dropped the case loo
jadedaid t1_jbipc5n wrote
I’ve got a traffic violation from 2019 that keeps being pushed down the line. I don’t think I’m going to court for that this year.
Grass8989 t1_jb5hvuj wrote
He should be out of prison by now for attempting to rape a 16 year old?
tonyhasareddit t1_jb5xkpd wrote
He didn’t say “should”, he said “would probably”. And he’s probably right. That doesn’t make it just.
Mrmilkymilkster t1_jb6zv8p wrote
Covid shut down a lot of trial cases for near 2 years.
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