Submitted by E-bike-NYorker t3_11no49x in nyc
NetQuarterLatte t1_jbou67e wrote
The fact that the police responded and brought the menacing ex-cop to the police station is at least a step up in enforcement compared how they handled the duck sauce killer. Such action probably reduced the likelihood of this feud from escalating into a murder.
In contrast, the duck sauce killer was only arrested after he murdered someone from the restaurant staff he was menacing.
Simple things like that could deter a crime and it's a lot cheaper than incarceration, etc.
Rottimer t1_jbp333x wrote
You see this as a step in the right direction. I look at this incident and unless corrected from on high, shows exactly why you have young kids solving disputes violently on city streets, because the cops cannot be trusted to protect them.
NetQuarterLatte t1_jbp6j2x wrote
Your understanding that mistrust in the police is a major driver in street violence is backed by evidence.
Distrust in the police is a stronger factor than poverty (2.6x stronger) on teenagers committing first-time violence offenses.
But whatever dispute those kids had with the business owner, I don't see how breaking a security camera is a step towards solving anything, and how that ex-cop chasing the kids with a gun helped.
He should've called the police instead of trying to solve matters with his own hands. But at least the kids called the police on him!
mowotlarx t1_jbow853 wrote
What the hell does this story have to do with the DuCk SaUcE KiLLEr. Focus.
NetQuarterLatte t1_jbowpts wrote
Both were menacing with a gun.
mowotlarx t1_jbozjqy wrote
Do you think that's a rare crime? Or you just wanted to bring up the DuCk SaUcE KiLLEr for jollies? This has nothing to do with that. This is about cops looking out for cops.
therealstygianumbra t1_jbp07vm wrote
No, more like jokingly pointing out the false equivocation of comparing a mentally deranged man living in a dirty apartment who killed someone over duck sauce to a small business owner/operator who also was a NYPD officer having his business physically vandalized.
mowotlarx t1_jbp0l28 wrote
Oh, so you're saying a cop brandishing a gun illegally who should know better is more justified in brandishing a gun illegally? Is that right? Generally we hold people who are mentally stable and not deranged to a higher standard, but I guess this is a cop so he just gets to bypass the law.
NetQuarterLatte t1_jbp1b7t wrote
Do you honestly believe that deranged people are held to higher standard?
The duck sauce killer was not taken to the police station even after repeated menacing.
He was only arrested after he committed murder.
How is that a higher standard?
mowotlarx t1_jbpoudn wrote
Again I ask, what does this have to do with this story about a cop being let off the hook by other cops despite illegal activity?
NetQuarterLatte t1_jbq0z6e wrote
I already responded with the explanation to your question.
Now it's up to you to read it.
Duck sauce killer was let off the hook in a bigger way, commits a murder, and the "advocates" stay mum about that.
That strongly suggests that for the advocates, it's not about crimes and victims, it's just a brainless anti-police political stunt.
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NetQuarterLatte t1_jbp0pz3 wrote
Anyone who look at the underlying facts can see that ex-cop was held to a higher standard than a non-cop who end up committing murder.
I think we both agree that cops should be held at a higher standard.
therealstygianumbra t1_jbp2nns wrote
The facts show 3 kids gave a general description of a gun and one claimed he fired a shot which wasn't corroborated between the other two. They were fabricating things and who knows what else they fabricated. If cops are held to a higher standard then they should be treated with a higher standard provided they don't have a history of criminal behavior.
stork38 t1_jbozkw6 wrote
Keep saying duck sauce, now I want some general tsos.
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