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Souperplex t1_jbrc2gy wrote

So 5-10 years before it gets to the FGNR lines?

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AwesomeWhiteDude t1_jbrvnwl wrote

N should get these eventually, the initial order is going to A/C trains iirc

F/G/R have R160s which still have decades of service life left

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Pollsmor t1_jbst2vc wrote

The fact that there are currently no plans to implement CBTC on Broadway probably means they are last in priority. The order will likely go:

A/C - displace all R46s and R68s

B/D - Sixth Avenue has plans for CBTC so they will need new cars, displace majority of R68s/R68As. I don't think the base order for the R211 has enough to cover all of them, but option orders should bring them over the hump.

N/Q/W - will be receiving hand-me-down R68s from the above to replace their R46s all this while. Maybe the option order will be large enough for at least part of the Broadway fleet to have R211s?

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AwesomeWhiteDude t1_jbsxwyc wrote

>N/Q/W - will be receiving hand-me-down R68s from the above to replace their R46s all this while.

I bet you're right, I always mix up which lines are getting CBTC next.

Looks like though if they exercise all options they would be able to replace all the R68/As too, which I'm sure they will as I think after the future R262s the entire fleet would either have provisions or already have CBTC installed

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Pollsmor t1_jbsyviu wrote

You also have to keep in mind that R46s/R68s are 75-footers. Ten 60-footers are equivalent to eight 75-footers. Going to do some quick math via Wikipedia (which admittedly makes this an estimation):

(748 R46s + 425 R68s + 200 R68As) * 10 / 8 = 1717 cars. Not to mention the SIR is replacing its R44s with them as well.

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AwesomeWhiteDude t1_jbt05to wrote

Very true, I totally overlooked that. It seems like the R211 with all options is 1,567 according to Wikipedia, feels like they should tack on an extra ~250 cars to finish out the rest of the fleet

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Ok-Strain-9847 t1_jbspo8v wrote

The R lines will remain the same until hell freezes over.

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drecklia t1_jbtdffs wrote

Did R trains flip with the N? The N is now running the crappy ones while the R has the newer ones.

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uncle_troy_fall_97 t1_jbu3os5 wrote

They had to get all the trains that run over the Queens Blvd. Line (E, F, M, and R) running modern rolling stock that operates with modern signaling (CBTC, if you wanna look it up) because that line has been having its signals upgraded. I ride the N and used to ride the Q, and both of those lines had to give up their newer equipment for that reason.

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