I hope they preserve that lovely block between 29th & 30th where people stand around yelling at each other for some reason.

Listen I have to do something after I get out of work. What do you want from me?

Now do every other street and make the city a nice place for everyone.

They're not arguing though, just yell-talking.

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I want this to happen but first youd need to beef up the transit options in the city

Not to nitpick, but shouldn't the title read "Madison and Herald Squares"

Yes.

Who says Madison square and leaves out the park

Pedestrian streets are really great. Especially eating outside when the weather is nice.

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Exactly, 255 people died in NYC from bikes and E-bikes last year alone!

Oh no wait, sorry that was cars actually. It was the cars that killed those people.

At the very least they should pedestrianize the rest of Broadway from South Ferry to 59th St

And pretty useless when the weather is bad

Drivers, but yeah.

This is a pretty shitty troll attempt.

Do what you love, and you'll never work a day in your life.

not the case in literally any pedestrian friendly city - it's called roofs lol!

but for now, you are still correct. new york's haphazard street shacks threw up during covid certainly won't cut it - but i am sure that restaurants will invest in proper outdoor infrastructure once they have a guarantee that their street is going to be pedestrianized. unless the food is bomb as hell, people will choose the restaurant next door with outdoor heaters, enclosed seating, and properly sealed rain-proof roofs.

... We're saying that Manhattan, specifically, needs more transit options? It's the most transit-accessible region on the continent, I don't know what more you could want if Manhattan is insufficient for you.

Covered open streets is a great idea!

You made a lot of really great points. My previous comment wasn't against open streets, I was just saying they aren't fun in bad weather

I was arguing with a stranger on the street on election night and this guy thought we were fighting and tried to break it up. We both told him “that’s how we talk” at the same time. NYC is a “we yell because we care” kind of town.

Buses could run more frequently. The schedule got cut drastically on many routes some years back and never recovered.

yeah, it's really a bummer in shit weather. however i was recently in paris during some rain and was pleasantly surprised to see lots of folks still opting to use the outdoor seating, granted they were bundled up appropriately!

I like sitting outside when it's a bit chilly out. I'm all for building up outdoor areas for bad weather

Sure, obviously things could be improved, but come on, it's not like it's hard to get around Manhattan without a car. This isn't a suburb of LA, it's a region with dozens of heavy rail transit lines running 24/7. If Manhattan can't support every other street being car free, literally nowhere else on the planet can.

I’m not arguing with you, we agree. Things can be improved. Thanks.

well if youre gonna make it fully car free yes youd need to beef up transit to match whats been "lost"

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Yeah. Also they left out the square. My mental map crapped out since Madison Ave and Herald Square don’t meet.

Not a nit. It confuse.

Do 32nd st Koreatown! I keep saying that's the perfect candidate for a walking street once you get rid of the sheds. Its literally right next to the proposed Broadway and Herald Square even.

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The same way the rest of the world does it? Either overnight deliveries via the pedestrian space or daytime deliveries parked on a side street and carted the short block to the store.

Are those cars driving south on 6th ave in the graphic ?

Glad I’m not the only one having to take a second glance to make sure I was seeing this fallacy properly.

Close B'way from Union Sq to Columbus Cl. Add a light rail to B'way. Coesn't have to go fast. Boom. Extra tourism.

Disagree on the light rail. There's a four track subway just below the surface. There's zero need to spend $billions on extra rail capacity on this corridor.

I want more crosstown busways personally (like 14th). I’d do 34th, 42nd, and 57th as the bare minimum.

And much more severe restrictions for standing in bus lanes.

Doesn't the M34 run on 34th crosstown?

Yes but not on a busway. Busways are roads that are closed to ordinary traffic.

Oh

> most transit-accessible region on the continent

Why you doing Mexico City dirty like that.

Superblocks would be amazing and so much more efficient. The traffic light at every intersection thing going on in NYC is.... crazy.

It even seems potentially cost effective, since street structure probably needs to be redone anyway. But even if not, it would be nice for quality of life. Cars have WAY too much real estate. You'd think residents/pedestrians should have at least as much. Humans need some nature and clean air, which sounds obvious, but not to NYC so much.

I think the entire square is Madison Square, in which lies Madison Square Park. But yeah, everyone says Madison Square Park lest someone thinks you’re talking about MSG.

We need a busway on 23rd. I can walk to Traders Joe’s quicker than taking a bus sometimes and it’s three stops away.

So, car free, and then the busses can be fast and unobstructed by traffic. sounds great, frankly.

A lot easier, without all the private car traffic bottling things up?

Id go even further and convert some bus lines to light rail