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PandaJ108 t1_jcak138 wrote

Reply to comment by robxburninator in Study shows those released under NY's bail reform laws are less likely to get rearrested by mowotlarx

Going to go out on a limb and say you only read the headline (and definitely did not bother to click the link leading the study) and completely missed how bail eligible suspects arrested on violent offenses saw there rearrest rate increase.

And look at the chart on page 17 of the study. Want to talk about picking stats. The chart clearly shows that those in the bail reform group who had a pending case where more likely to be rearrested across all categories (any rearrest, felony rearrest, violent felony rearrest).

And the same hold true for those initial arrested on a violent felony. The bail reform group were more likely to be rearrested across all categories compared to the comparison group.

So great, those that were a part of the bail/reform group who were initially arrested on a misdemeanor are less likely to be arrested while those on the bail/reform group who had pending case or arrested on a violent felony were more likely to be arrested.

Anybody that views this as any sort of “win” 100% just read the headline and whatever stats the author wanted to highlight.

Like I said. The chart is on page 17 of the study for anybody that wants to review for themselves.

Edited- page number updated. Chart is on page 17. Specifically, the one breaking down the two year rearrest rate.

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matzoh_ball t1_jcat2aw wrote

>So great, those that were a part of the bail/reform group who were initially arrested on a misdemeanor are less likely to be arrested while those on the bail/reform group who had pending case or arrested on a violent felony were more likely to be arrested.

Not quite. Those are people with *prior* violent felony arrests, not people whose *current* charge is a violent felony (since almost all of them would still be bail eligible).

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pirepori t1_jcclaty wrote

Ow yes the fella down the block who 6 months ago smashed the guy’s head in for a loose cigarette and a lighter only threatened and stole a 6 pack of White Claws now, so I guess it’s ok. He did us all a favor

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matzoh_ball t1_jccmp82 wrote

Dude I just corrected a minor detail, not defending or criticizing any policy here.

FWIW, in the scenario you refer to, my question would be why that guy hadn’t been sentenced to jail or prison for smashing someone’s head in. Bail reform has literally nothing to do with sentencing guidelines so your hypothetical scenario wouldn’t have anything to do with bail reform.

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