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flightwaves t1_jciajph wrote

This sub: Tax drivers? YAYYYYYYYY

This sub: Tax shit I use? BOOOOOOO

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ephemeraljelly t1_jcil0yl wrote

why should any of us pay a tax for streaming? this city is already on incredibly expensive and difficult to live in, why on earth should another tax be levied?

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flightwaves t1_jcim2my wrote

That’s what I’m saying but yet I keep running into idiots on here saying drivers should have to pay another tax and toll increases

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AcceptablePosition5 t1_jciyxv6 wrote

Neither of you put in a good argument.

Tax is used often to discourage behaviors with negative externalities, like piling tons of cars into Manhattan.

Not sure how that applies to streaming Netflix

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ephemeraljelly t1_jcj9cf1 wrote

so how are neither of us putting in a good argument if you dont even know how that applies to streaming? mind you im not arguing anything, im asking what would justify that tax

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AcceptablePosition5 t1_jcjuzmz wrote

My point was taxes on cars, like congestion charges, are not comparable in purpose to taxes on streaming, as far as I can surmise, unless there's a reason we should discourage streaming services.

In the former case, we want to discourage a behavior (diving in Manhattan). In the latter, it seems to be more about raising money

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flightwaves t1_jciz59g wrote

That would be true if there wasn’t a strict revenue target on that tax. But since there is, it’s not about discouraging behavior, it’s to raise revenue.

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AcceptablePosition5 t1_jcjupgb wrote

What strict revenue target? You mean expected revenue, the routine calculation for every tax enacted?

I'm not a fan of this tax either, but you're seeing patterns where there isn't any.

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flightwaves t1_jckeh6u wrote

Fifteen billion dollars.
That’s how much money the state legislature mandated the MTA must raise through congestion pricing — by leveraging annual revenue to borrow $15 billion for the transit agency’s current five-year capital program.

THAT strict revenue target. You're ignoring patterns where they are.

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AcceptablePosition5 t1_jcmcl88 wrote

Oh the congestion charges. Thought you meant the streaming tax.

Nice copy pasta. It's basically a stipulation for a loan to make sure the burden doesn't fall on the subway rider, or MTA doesn't back out of it, because again, excessive cars have a negative externality.

Look, it's pretty simple. Taxes raise money, and discourage unwanted behavior. I mean they could also just ban cars. Would that be better?

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drpvn t1_jcma8ga wrote

You should be watching less streaming video. This is the state looking after your best interest.

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chug84 t1_jcvahm2 wrote

>Tax is used often to discourage behaviors with negative externalities, like piling tons of cars into Manhattan.

Nah, that's just what dipshits like to think who can't apply critical thinking skills. Taxes have one purpose and one purpose only, to line the government's pockets.

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lupuscapabilis t1_jclb3fi wrote

It’s like how some people will scream at corporations for being cheap and then cancel Netflix when it goes up a dollar

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virtual_adam t1_jcjx5z7 wrote

Yes taxing mostly non residents (that’s the focus on the fight, mostly local politicians representing the bridge and tunnel) is much better than taxing residents even more. No problems with that take

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flightwaves t1_jck3e0m wrote

I hope they tax streaming services, delivery fees, up their taxes on Con Ed, National Grid, your cellphone bill AND raise the fares.

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drpvn t1_jcmagd9 wrote

Raising the minimum wage in NYC again will help raise prices for stuff this sub buys.

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