Submitted by King-of-New-York t3_ylio53 in nyc
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TeamMisha t1_iuzkb27 wrote
Zeldin has no idea how to run the MTA he'd sooner just cut more funding and hobble the agency then try to illicit more meaningful reforms. I mean Hochul probably has no idea either in how to reform it but at least she walks hand in hand with Janno Lieber lol
Status_Fox_1474 t1_iv0ha5o wrote
Or, since the Governor has 4 seats to fill the MTA's board, he can absolutely fill it with people who want to destroy it.
Grass8989 t1_iuzjf0y wrote
They just need a little more. They’re super serious that it’ll be spent efficiently this time!
Gu_Ming t1_iuzqece wrote
To be fair, everywhere public transport projects run over budget and late on deadline. The more you add hoops to jump through for that budget, the more that delays the construction and inflate the budget further.
There is real conundrum between efficiency and monitoring.
After the projects are completed and people start enjoying them and they start generating revenues, the delays and overbudget get forgotten easily.
queensnyatty t1_iv0jpt8 wrote
No transit project anywhere in the world in the last two decades has as bad a record as bad as east side access. The MTA is literally the worst.
The Elizabeth line, for example, had its problems but not even at the same order of magnitude as east side access. That was a much more ambitious project too.
IAmGoingToSleepNow t1_iv0uomd wrote
> The MTA is literally the worst.
Yes. Literally in the literal sense.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/28/nyregion/new-york-subway-construction-costs.html
MillennialNightmare t1_iuyl5pc wrote
There’s no shot that Zeldin supports congestion pricing and we know how republicans feel general about New York City and public services. It would be an extremely rough four years.
TeamMisha t1_iuytqek wrote
Unless I understand wrong, the law is already passed, the MTA does not need the future governor's approval as congestion pricing is already authorized. He would need to submit legislation that undoes the previous law, but I don't see a good reason the senate would support such a move.
MillennialNightmare t1_iuyyhlw wrote
Most of the members of the senate are from outside of Manhattan. It doesn’t take much to scaremonger enough for people to turn against a policy that makes sense, which is why we’re even having a conversation about Zeldin potentially winning in the first place.
TeamMisha t1_iuzhatf wrote
He also screamed that he would bypass the will of the legislature with emergency measures over bail reform lol, and they shot back, they seem pissed already and the majority party will probably balk at working with this lunatic
King-of-New-York OP t1_iv0eu1c wrote
20% of congestion pricing toll revenue will go to the LIRR and MNR. Zeldins right wing suburban base. The other 80% will go to the endless money pit known as “capital projects.”
I wrote about it here.
And here.
https://www.reddit.com/r/nyc/comments/xxcbub/20_of_congestion_pricing_tolls_to_be_legislated/
MTA Capital Projects.
Prestigious-Aide-986 t1_iv0b25r wrote
The MTA since I have been alive has always been just on the edge of collapse. It doesn't matter how much money you throw in that hole it will never be enough.
Gozillasbday t1_iv0mv9j wrote
And at the same time the MTA /the subways in general are not going shut down or something. Do you think one day they'll all be closed and that's it just no more subways?
Delaywaves t1_iv0p4fd wrote
No, but they could cut service and staffing to the point that it's no longer a reliable means of transportation, which would seriously fuck up the lives of millions of New Yorkers.
I get the impulse to want to "punish" the MTA for its mismanagement by reducing funding, but that won't actually fix anything — it'll just make all of our lives miserable.
Gozillasbday t1_iv0scsr wrote
I agree? I'm not sure you're responding to the right person with this I understand the necessity of the the subway system. I also didn't vote for Zeldin.
Delaywaves t1_iv0sxhs wrote
Got it, sorry if I misinterpreted your comment — there are lots of posts in this thread along the lines of "we should cut MTA's funding and see what happens," so I thought you were suggesting the same.
ITAVTRCC t1_iv0pbl6 wrote
Can’t imagine a single problem for which Lee Zeldin is the answer lmao
jerseycityfrankie t1_iv0pq7q wrote
Well, if the “problem” is Democracy, he’s your seditionist scumbag man.
Bkgrouch t1_iuz34gt wrote
Lol that freaking guy ain't winning if he wins I'll eat a bowl of shi* 😆
chadxmerch t1_iuze9gy wrote
Posting in the off chance that you actually have to eat a bowl of shit.
actualtext t1_iuz7oy9 wrote
Please vote to make sure he doesn't.
GrumpyNewYorker t1_iuzqig4 wrote
RemindMe! 4 Days "the poopsmith"
OutrageousGarbage743 t1_iv21uuu wrote
I know who I’m voting for now, also make sure you eat a big lunch and dinner next Tuesday lol
GrumpyNewYorker t1_iw0cp08 wrote
Circling back around to remind you that you were a 3% swing from eating a bowl of nature’s Cocoa Puffs.
Bkgrouch t1_iw0eid1 wrote
Lol yeah was hoping to post that video of myself eating shit o well maybe next time 😁
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LunacyNow t1_iv0eesj wrote
The fate of the MTA has been been in the MTA's own hands since its inception. Decades of corruption and irresponsible fiscal policy have put them in this situation. Congestion pricing is a tax. It will not come near generating the $1 billion that they think it will. Even if it does it still won't fill the projected $ 2.5 billion dollar budget gap in 2024. And this is AFTER they burned through $15 billion dollars in federal emergency aid.
https://www.thecity.nyc/2022/7/25/23278062/mta-fiscal-cliff-federal-funds-near-end-of-line
TeamMisha t1_iv18si7 wrote
Why do you not believe in the revenue forecast? Did you do a traffic analysis to show differently?
LunacyNow t1_iv2jaas wrote
The $1 billion is not a forecast as much as it is a mandate set by the legislature. The goal is to hit $1 billion dollars whatever it takes.
In general these types of programs never generate the revenue that is expected. Throw in all of the carve outs and the 'ingenuity' of people to find workarounds and you'll be hard pressed to hit that number. As it's a mandate to hit $1 billion the only option at that point will be to raise the fees to make up the the carve outs and work arounds. Of course this will not prove to be popular and will likely get a lot of resistance. In fact this study determined the most numerous population segment of commuters are police (which likely won't be subject to the congestion fees).
"The tract will also surely be the epicenter of the fight over congestion pricing exemptions, since any exemptions given out to people driving and parking in this slice of lower Manhattan could eviscerate the entire program."
However this not the important point. The main problem is that this new revenue will not fill the hole. Even if it was $2.5 billion the MTA would find a way to say they are at shortfall once again.
TeamMisha t1_iv2ydy0 wrote
Read the Environmental Assessment. The toll scenarios studied are to reach the revenue required.
Rottimer t1_iv16kqr wrote
Well we have to hope it does make $1 Billion, because any shortfall has to come out city coffers.
Grass8989 t1_iv0mrl7 wrote
Since the mayor and governor started this new safety initiative fare jumping summonses have increased exponentially. That should give the MTA a nice boost in revenue.
Jaded-ruminations t1_iuyvvs6 wrote
Could cause Global Thermonuclear War.
BasedAlliance935 t1_iuzcp9i wrote
No it wont
blage t1_iv28grl wrote
The MTA fucking sucks
[deleted] t1_iv864ao wrote
Lies
OpenWindow56283 t1_iuymhlf wrote
Definitely. Zeldin will actually ensure that there are consequences to committing crime on the subway.
imnotthesmartestman t1_iuyqal2 wrote
Can't commit crime on the subway if there is no subway to commit crimes on.
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queensnyatty t1_iuz3tus wrote
I don’t want to lose the subways but how about the MTA learns to spend what they already get responsibly before getting more. How far over original budget is east side access? (And how many years late?)