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PandaJ108 t1_j25pccn wrote

The guy was not even fare beating. He was just trying to exit thru the emergency door. And no, these guards don’t have authority to ticket anybody. They are just there as a presence and MTA hopes that people won’t jump the turnstiles upon seeing them. Pretty sure the city/MTA does not want these guards engaging physically with fare beaters in anyway.

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ananon18 t1_j261dwg wrote

So we can’t use emergency door to exit anymore??

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Topher1999 t1_j261s6v wrote

If you like your face the way it is, nope

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ananon18 t1_j26ffng wrote

Everyone uses it cause it’s easier than exiting from turnstile when you have a bunch of people trying to swipe in via turnstile to enter

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Grass8989 t1_j266qgf wrote

You were never supposed to use it unless it was an emergency, hence “emergency exit”.

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Own_Decision_4063 t1_j26ar71 wrote

People open the emergency doors so that people on the other side can enter without paying. I see it all the time at the Times Square stations. More worried about crime in the subways instead of fare beaters.

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Grass8989 t1_j26b1sh wrote

Right, and these guys were hired specifically for fare beating, which is why they told the individual to not use the emergency exit.

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yasth t1_j26bvzy wrote

You are explicitly allowed to use it if you have a stroller or a wheelchair etc. the phrasing is just the mta trying to discourage people from using them.

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Curiosities t1_j26gta9 wrote

As well as carrying packages or luggage, and sometimes it's easier or even necessary to use the gate if you're disabled (which might be invisible), rather than have to trek back across the platform to get to the turnstiles.

I use both turnstiles and gates to exit when I ride, depending on the day and my circumstances. I'm invisibly disabled. I'm sure these security people would never consider that.

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Phaedrusnyc t1_j2730mp wrote

I'm also (basically) invisibly disabled (although if anyone ever paid attention to strangers it's not all that invisible when you see my gait, etc). I have been physically injured by people who refuse to yield right of way on turnstiles so I always use the doors when I can. Now I can look forward to Rent-a-Robocop yelling at me to comply, I guess.

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Grass8989 t1_j26cow5 wrote

Did this person have either of those? The fact that they got into an altercation with the guards and started recording them tends to make me think they didn’t.

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yasth t1_j26cuz8 wrote

Never said they did just that they aren’t only for an emergency.

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