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Neefycane t1_j0rc16e wrote

“194 anti-jewish assaults since 2018”

There are 1.6 million jews living in nyc. If we do this for all races, it would be higher for other groups. The only difference is it wouldn’t be labeled as a “hate” crime. Well unless it’s an asian person. Only two groups have hate crime bills, asians & jews.

I would also like to know how many incidents happened this year. Since they say it’s an increase.

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jay5627 t1_j0rikpc wrote

You can look at the data for yourself: https://app.powerbigov.us/view?r=eyJrIjoiYjg1NWI3YjgtYzkzOS00Nzc0LTkwMDAtNTgzM2I2M2JmYWE1IiwidCI6IjJiOWY1N2ViLTc4ZDEtNDZmYi1iZTgzLWEyYWZkZDdjNjA0MyJ9

The first 3 quarters of 2022 had as many hate crimes against Jews as the whole 2021. The 194 number you referenced is the number of crimes the article claims to have looked into, not the number that has occurred.

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Neefycane t1_j0rjgvg wrote

The explanations for a lot of the logs for Jews in specific state criminal mischief, which supposedly is placed for vandalism, but they’re saying it’s related to religious practice. A lot of these numbers are skewed.

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jay5627 t1_j0rk6ns wrote

When swastikas are spray painted on a synagogue, do you not think that's related to religious practice?

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Neefycane t1_j0rlre4 wrote

It’s skewing the numbers, that’s all I’m saying. When you think of a hate crime, you think it’s physical before anything else.

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IRequirePants t1_j0roaav wrote

> When you think of a hate crime, you think it’s physical before anything else.

No, vandalism is pretty common for anti-semitic hate crimes. Vandalizing Jewish cemeteries for example. Swastikas spray painted on Jewish places such as schools, synagogues etc.

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spicytoastaficionado t1_j0s0b1i wrote

>When you think of a hate crime, you think it’s physical before anything else.

Says who?

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jay5627 t1_j0royl7 wrote

Just because you do doesn't mean everyone does.

I don't know about you, but showing up to synagogue and seeing a swastika painted with the words 'die Jews' doesn't make me feel warm and cuddly on the inside

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rainzer t1_j0rp28y wrote

Sorry your planned hate crime spree was thwarted, chucklefuck?

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elizabeth-cooper t1_j0ribhl wrote

Wrong-o buddy. There are hate crimes committed against pretty much all groups in NYC. You can check out the hate crimes dashboard yourself.

https://app.powerbigov.us/view?r=eyJrIjoiYjg1NWI3YjgtYzkzOS00Nzc0LTkwMDAtNTgzM2I2M2JmYWE1IiwidCI6IjJiOWY1N2ViLTc4ZDEtNDZmYi1iZTgzLWEyYWZkZDdjNjA0MyJ9

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Neefycane t1_j0risq8 wrote

So if all races experience “hate crimes”, why not create bills for everyone? Or is that reserved for those who should be a “protected class”? The point is, if anyone were to attack a jewish person for any reason, it would be labeled a hate crime, which isn’t necessarily the case for anyone else besides the two groups mentioned. I think any crime against another person is bad, hate or not btw.

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elizabeth-cooper t1_j0rj4vi wrote

The bill is for everyone.

https://buffalonews.com/news/local/hochul-forms-statewide-hate-and-bias-prevention-unit/article_f6b6015a-7a51-11ed-b8f6-ebd692754251.html

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Neefycane t1_j0rjok9 wrote

This bill is not the same as the ones made for asians & jews. This is a prevention unit. (Not suggesting I’m against it, but rather it’s not specific for each race as it is for the ones I’ve mentioned). Also Trump signed the bill for Jews (Good guy?) 🙂

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elizabeth-cooper t1_j0rk7wz wrote

What bill are you referring to?

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Neefycane t1_j0rle7t wrote

https://www.npr.org/2019/12/11/787176743/trump-to-sign-order-against-anti-semitism-at-colleges-worrying-free-speech-advoc

&

https://maloney.house.gov/media-center/in-the-news/trump-signs-into-law-the-never-again-education-act

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elizabeth-cooper t1_j0rllpq wrote

That's from three years ago and it's federal.

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Neefycane t1_j0rm35c wrote

“That was from 3 years ago”

Yeah.. sorta around the time he was President.

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elizabeth-cooper t1_j0rmgsa wrote

And is federal. This is r/nyc. It's not an NYC bill.

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Neefycane t1_j0rmpvn wrote

So you’re saying a Federal bill does not cover nyc?

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elizabeth-cooper t1_j0rn0yg wrote

I'm saying it's irrelevant to this thread.

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Neefycane t1_j0rnnwd wrote

So was your comment in reply to other races not receiving bills specific to them? You’re suggesting because it covers all states, and not just nyc, that it means it’s meaningless? Here’s another bill.

https://www.nysenate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/anna-m-kaplan/senator-kaplans-holocaust-education-bill-signed-law-new-york

And another…

https://www.timesofisrael.com/ny-governor-signs-anti-hate-crime-bill-days-after-synagogue-attack-foiled/amp/

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Cascando-5273 t1_j0riqvj wrote

The data for reported hate crimes can be found at NYC Open Data.

When you have crunched the numbers, I'm sure we'd all be interested in your findings, and whether they support your claims and innuendoes.

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