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sysyphusishappy t1_izo68yt wrote

Reply to comment by MarbleFox_ in NYC healthcare worker sounds alarm on city's mental health crisis by goodguyfdny

> South Africa had some of the most stringent policies in the world and Sweden had one of the highest death rates in the world.

Evidence that south Africa or any of the dozens of countries in Africa had "one of the most stringent policies in the world"? You do realize that most people in Africa can barely afford food right?

As far as Sweden having "one of the highest death rates in the world" they are 42nd for COVID deaths per Capita. Italy, the US, the UK, Austria, Spain, and the US all had much higher deaths per Capita. The number one country for deaths per Capita is Peru, who closed their borders longer than pretty much any other country.

Still waiting for your source for "thousands of dead kids" in sweden? Or did that not happen?

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Phaedrusnyc t1_izoatn3 wrote

"You do realize that most people in Africa can barely afford food right?" Aaaaaaand, that's where I stopped reading.

Wow, either a very bad troll or a very good simpleton.

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[deleted] t1_izofwkw wrote

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Phaedrusnyc t1_izpi3wk wrote

Better at it than you, since, unlike you, I'm aware that: 1.There are 50 countries on the African continent, 2. 15 of them have >50% of their population living at poverty levels and 3. How numbers work, how geography works, and what the word "most" means, bigoted troll.

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sysyphusishappy t1_izqblos wrote

Oh. So to be clear you think what, most of the countries in Africa are mostly middle class? 🤣 Why don't you explain to me why they didn't have the worst covid deaths in earth in Lagos? Unless maybe you think people who can barely afford to eat were "social distancing" and sitting in their pajamas on zoom calls like you were?

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[deleted] t1_izo8m8s wrote

>south Africa or any of the dozens of countries in Africa had "one of the most stringent policies in the world"? You do realize that most people in Africa can barely afford food right?

Conflates South Africa with all of Africa. Lol!

>Still waiting for your source for "thousands of dead kids" in sweden? Or did that not happen?

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2101280

There you go! Took me all of 3 seconds to Google it for you!

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sysyphusishappy t1_izo90le wrote

> Conflates South Africa with all of Africa. Lol!

Well, there are zero African countries with big death tolls from COVID and less than zero who had the "thousands of dead kids" you claimed would be the result from aññowing children to go to school. Explain.

Lol. Did you really just post a letter to the editor? Can you point me to where this letter has data with "thousands of dead kids"? 😆

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[deleted] t1_izo9vfb wrote

>zero African countries with big death tolls from COVID

They are known for their record keeping, after all.

>and less than zero who had the "thousands of dead kids" you claimed would be the result from aññowing children to go to school. Explain

Lie! You explain. There are no negative countries.

>Can you point me to where this letter has data with "thousands of dead kids"? 😆

Right there in the summary! Sorry you're upset! 🤣

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sysyphusishappy t1_izoakbs wrote

> They are known for their record keeping, after all.

Gee, that's odd. The New York Times doesn't mention "record keeping" at all to explain away the low death rates in Africa?

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/23/health/covid-africa-deaths.html

> Lie! You explain. There are no negative countries.

Lol. Imagine being such a humorless authoritarian that you literally pretend obvious sarcasm is really a statement of fact.

Still not seeing any data at all to support your claim of "thousands of dead kids" as a result of allowing them to go to school and not be forced to mask...

Hey, maybe because there is no data to back up your government talking point? Just a hunch. Surely you'll find the data any minute now.

> Right there in the summary

What "summary"? You posted letters to the editor.

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[deleted] t1_izob58p wrote

Another 3 second Google search: https://data.unicef.org/topic/child-survival/covid-19/

Let's also forget the network effects of having kids spread it.

Aight, I'm out. You're an insufferable POS who just doesn't care about anything but themselves. Makes sense given your background.

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sysyphusishappy t1_izobxig wrote

Oh.

> Among the 4.1 million COVID-19 deaths1 reported in the MPIDR COVerAGE database, 0.4 per cent (over 16,100) occurred in children and adolescents under 20 years of age. Of the over 16,100 deaths reported in those under 20 years of age, 53 per cent occurred among adolescents ages 10–19, and 47 per cent among children ages 0–9.

You do realize this 16,000 number is for the entire world right? Out of 8 billion people? Btw did they die from COVID or with COVID?

Still not seeing any data at all to show "thousands of dead kids" in Sweden or florida.

You're doing just great! I feel like one more 30 second Google search and you'll find the smoking gun data that shows thousands of dead kids in Sweden and Florida for not obeying your vicious authoritarian policies.

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[deleted] t1_izoczdx wrote

Here it is for the US: https://www.statista.com/statistics/1191568/reported-deaths-from-covid-by-age-us/

>You're doing just great! I feel like one more 30 second Google search and you'll find the smoking gun data that shows thousands of dead kids in Sweden and Florida for not obeying your vicious authoritarian policies.

Omg, maybe I'll find the conservative research that shows it's just a flu and nothing to worry about! Such a tool. Just keep ignoring other people's deaths because you're too much of a "man" to adhere to public health measures.

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sysyphusishappy t1_izoe8fj wrote

Here what is? Less than 1500 kids total in a country of 330 million proves that there were "thousands of dead kids" in Sweden because they let kids go to school?

Btw did they die from COVID or with COVID? Even Hochul admits that's important now.

> Omg, maybe I'll find the conservative research that shows it's just a flu and nothing to worry about!

You made a specific claim that your vicious authoritarianism was the only thing that saved us from "thousands of dead kids" in Sweden, so you posted data that shows less than 1500 dead kids who you don't even know if they died from covid or with COVID to prove it?

> Just keep ignoring other people's deaths because you're too much of a "man" to adhere to public health measures.

I'm not ignoring anything. I am calling out your lies you used to support authoritarianism. Btw you do realize calling your authoritarianism "public health measures" doesn't make them less authoritarian right?

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[deleted] t1_izoetbk wrote

You know calling it "freedom" doesn't make it less authoritarian to promote eugenics, right?

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sysyphusishappy t1_izofare wrote

To summarize, you claimed not following your vicious authoritarianism would lead to "thousands of dead kids" in Sweden and Florida. You still have ZERO data to back that claim up, so now you're just blurting out bad things like eugenics that have literally nothing to do with anything we're talking about let alone even come close to backing up your dumb claim?

🤣

But yeah, putting "freedom" in scare quotes is not authoritarian at all.

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[deleted] t1_izog84t wrote

I gave you stats that thousands of kids are dead, and millions of adults as well, given our lackadaisical attitude to pandemic control. You're here promoting letting people die and bashing "vicious authoritarian measures" like wearing a mask and not going out when you're sick.

I guess you're just a bastard 🤷‍♂️.

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sysyphusishappy t1_izojq7s wrote

> I gave you stats that thousands of kids are dead

🤣🤣🤣🤣

But that's not what you claimed. You claimed thousands of kids died on Sweden and Europe since they chose to disobey your authoritarianism. Can you explain to me how showing data that 16,000 kids under 20 died globally out of 8 billion people even comed close to proving this claim?

Btw did you ever get around to showing which kids died from covid vs with COVID? Even your fascist heros like fauci and Hochul admitted that there is a vast difference between kids hospitalized for COVID vs just with COVID.

> You're here promoting letting people die and bashing "vicious authoritarian measures" like wearing a mask and not going out when you're sick.

But where are the "thousands of dead kids" you claimed resulted from Sweden, Europe and Florida not implementing your authoritarian policies?

You going to admit that you were wrong about that?

So tell.me how many more kids died in Sweden, Florida, and europe because they opened schools. You claimed "thousands of dead kids". So where is your data?

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MarbleFox_ t1_izogsqp wrote

> AUtHORITArIAnIsM!!1!!1!1!

Screams the one suggesting we should’ve forced children to go to school during the deadliest pandemic in US history.

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sysyphusishappy t1_izoidzg wrote

Oh. So Sweden, Florida, and most of Europe "forced children to go to school" and they were fine. How can that be if your authoritarianism worked so well?

Btw you never did find that data that showed "thousands of dead kids" in Sweden huh? You ever think that your government talking points are outdated and wrong?

Maybe you should look at the actual science to find out what the IFR is for children and COVID.

Btw you do realize that safety is the excuse that pretty much every authoritarian leader in history used right?

Or are you arguing that lockdowns, arresting people for walking in the park, demanding to see papers to eat in a restaurant, banning parties and funerals, the government deciding which workers are "essential", forcing people to take big pharma products or risk getting fired, were not authoritarian?

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