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mowotlarx OP t1_j0yv4wt wrote

If If anyone wants to know why right wing nut jobs have been targeting Drag Queens and LGBTQ+ folks, just know this specific movement you're now seeing in NYC and the exact language they use ("groomer" being the most popular) was born directly from the Proud Boys and Qanon..

The movement in NYC specifically really took hold among conspiracy theories who met at anti-vax protests who call themselves "Guardians of Divinity."

This is a hate group, not a normal confluence of "concerned" parents. And we've seen this people in our NYC subs using the exact same lingo. It's not a coincidence.

Edit: Erik Bottcher posted video of this hate group attacking his neighbor on the street as they were covering the street with anti-gay hate speech

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nonlawyer t1_j0za13z wrote

> This is a hate group, not a normal confluence of "concerned" parents.

From interviews I’ve seen with these mouthbreathers lots of them don’t even have kids

EDIT: also holy shit how did I miss the neckbeard with a pedo ‘stache and a fedora and the “stop grooming kids for sex” sign, you can’t make this shit up.

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Dan_Dead_Or_Alive t1_j0zbhlx wrote

Someone looking like that is probably implying that you should put a ring on it.

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nonlawyer t1_j0zbt8s wrote

His hand is covering the fine print on the sign saying “because that’s my job”

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darthTharsys t1_j107zgd wrote

It also gained a ton of traction from Chaya Raichik (LibsofTikTok). She is full of hate for anything lgbtq

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sanspoint_ t1_j0znt2q wrote

It's also worth noting that these assholes draw no distinction between drag performers and transgender women. As far as they're concerned it's all the same.

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Wowzlul t1_j10p95t wrote

That's the key point that makes me nervous. I can't exactly take this off like a costume at the end of the day. If one of these assholes clocks me...

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CHECK_FLOKI t1_j124fnf wrote

This is not new. Proud boys and QAnon and their media personalities like Elon and Kanye have bred a new generation of “anti conformists“ who are getting bolder in their hateful rhetoric and action.

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AnacharsisIV t1_j0zvntc wrote

Pretty sure the language was born from the old 4chan adjacent internet streamer "ShoeOnHead." Qanon and Proudboys just took it from her.

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nonlawyer t1_j103ki1 wrote

I don’t think so, AFAIK the “groomer” stuff was spearheaded by the usual suspects on the right like Chris Rufo and Jack Pobosiec, starting around the time Disney criticized the Florida “Don’t Say Gay” law. The same folks who were behind the CRT moral panic the year prior.

Shoe sometimes winks at QAnon-adjacent stuff despite calling herself a socialist, but I don’t think she started this one

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Distinct_Molasses234 t1_j10w3gv wrote

They were following James Lindsay. Lindsay is unknown by most but he was the one who laid the groundwork for the anti-woke movement on Twitter.

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nonlawyer t1_j10xhcw wrote

Riiight. I was trying to remember the name of that turd.

Despite all the groomer bullshit, no one will be surprised that he was friendly with a sex cult leader

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ninyabruja t1_j1116og wrote

I was in 5th grade in CA when the Briggs initiative was on the ballot. My teacher would have lost his job had it passed.

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Distinct_Molasses234 t1_j10vxa8 wrote

James Lindsay is the one who made it take off on Twitter with his “ok groomer” Tweets.

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