bkornblith t1_j22x46t wrote
Reply to comment by BasedTunechi in Rep.-elect George Santos lied about attending prestigious NYC prep school Horace Mann: report by PichuLovy
He won didn’t he - and the odds are he probably will still get to be in congress for enough time to take a bunch of bribes.
That’s why. Because the system is rigged and it doesn’t pay to tell the truth.
san_serifs t1_j23vjlw wrote
Someone clearly bankrolled and installed this guy to gain House majority. They know GOP voters will hold their noses and pull the level for any Republican on the ticket. They really don't care what falsehoods come out of this guy's mouth.
Elections have consequences.
leg_day t1_j243fex wrote
And the New York Democrats did nothing. They lost the entire house because they sat on their hands.
CaptainObvious t1_j24jve8 wrote
False. The NY Supreme Court overruled the Democrats congressional map.
leg_day t1_j24lrcn wrote
Yes, they did not get the map they wanted.
But they still lost multiple districts that they didn't need to. A few of them by 1%.
Example: Brooklyn was flooded by Zeldin supporters. Trucks. Banners. Big ground game hustle at major subway stations. Even admitting Zeldin won't win, but pushing down ticket votes for every local position. Zeldin didn't win, but the NY Dems were nowhere.
CaptainObvious t1_j24nym1 wrote
I'm not saying the NY Democrats crushed it, but they did more than "nothing".
Topher1999 t1_j24mot9 wrote
Double false. The Court of Appeals did.
CaptainObvious t1_j24ntdi wrote
You are correct. I forgot the NY court names are backwards for some arcane reason.
ketzal7 t1_j26bt7w wrote
And now Hochul is going to appoint a conservative Dem to the Court of Appeals to replace the one that voted against the Dem congressional map. The NY Dems are a clown show.
IRequirePants t1_j25bqyn wrote
Because the Democrats violated the NYS constitution blatantly.
CaptainObvious t1_j25e47o wrote
I leave that conclusion to more legal minded folks.
Funny how that never seems to bother Republicans though and they get to use illegal maps every election.
IRequirePants t1_j25fctm wrote
> I leave that conclusion to more legal minded folks.
Even if you assume they didn't gerrymander it to shit, they very blatantly avoided the proper legal process of overriding the commissions map. And they knew it was unconstitutional, because they tried to amend the constitution with a new proposal, which failed. And then they just did it anyway.
"legal-minded folks" - they fucking lost in court.
>Funny how that never seems to bother Republicans though and they get to use illegal maps every election.
That failure is the courts in their respective states. NYS doesn't govern them.
CaptainObvious t1_j25n9tf wrote
Republicans in other states just ignored the courts and used illegal maps. NY Democrats did not.
IRequirePants t1_j262x9g wrote
> Republicans in other states just ignored the courts
No, they didn't. The courts basically ignored the laws and said "we will let you do this, for THIS election" as if that is some concession. I don't know why you are trying to be aggressively wrong.
>NY Democrats did not.
NY courts correctly shut them down. You are weirdly suggesting that somehow NY Dems were nobly fighting instead of being literal scum and violating a constitutional amendment that the majority of NY voted for.
U-N-C-L-E t1_j2477oe wrote
So your theory is Republicans from Nassau County would not vote for a Republican because of what a Democrat said?
leg_day t1_j24978q wrote
It's a flipped seat. NY Dems were barely present during the election. They sat on millions of unspent funds. They didn't even google George Santos, they could have obliterated him on election day -- not by getting Republicans to not vote for him (GOP voters vote for rapists and child molesters, a gay republican lying about his prep school is a nothingburger for them) -- but by getting the Democrat vote out to protect against such a fuckface from getting into office.
NY State had 4 flipped seats, all with poor voter turn out. Four flipped seats.
The GOP took 222 seats. 218 are needed for a majority. 222 - 218 = 4.
Three of them were within 1% margin.
AdLogical5805 t1_j24eclk wrote
Robert Mercer-reclusive Long Island nut job billionaire - bank rolled several of Lee Zeldin’s congressional campaigns , wouldn’t be surprised to find that here too if they follow the money
san_serifs t1_j24erwy wrote
Following the money is exactly what the Feds are doing now.
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