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spahlo t1_j0jq00x wrote

You know what else isn’t good for the bird? Killing it. Foie gras or not those ducks are going to be butchered and sold.

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LibertyNachos t1_j0jr273 wrote

I don’t disagree with you there but banning excessive cruelty before slaughter is more achievable than banning meat altogether. Just because it ends up dead either way isn’t a good excuse to tolerate unnecessary cruelty before the end.

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spahlo t1_j0k204u wrote

Of course, but it can be made without cruelty and it is currently being done so where’s the issue? Hudson valley farms is a prime example of this and other ethical sources exist as well. Too many people pointing to past practices as if they are the common standard of today for their justification behind banning foie.

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LibertyNachos t1_j0l36me wrote

Hudson valley farms absolutely still uses force-feeding machines with tubes though so I’m not sure what you mean by ethical.

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fafalone t1_j0lzdac wrote

"We can torture animals however we want so long as they're food animals."

No, being raised for food doesn't confer an inherent right to torture.

It's like suggesting it would be ok to beat death row inmates every day, because we're going to kill them anyway.

Torture and killing for a specific purpose are not ethically the same.

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spahlo t1_j0ms69u wrote

Nobody’s torturing the animals in this case. People are anthropomorphizing them and assume that the ducks must dislike the force feeding in the same way a human would.

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