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[deleted] t1_j192gr2 wrote

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eschatonycurtis t1_j19ft7y wrote

How about we nationalize 95% of ALL hospitals? And make medical care free, like literally every other civilized nation in the world.

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nationalmoz t1_j19hzbj wrote

I'm from one of those countries.

The downsides would stun the US middle class.

"I'd like to see a PCP" - cool that'll be two weeks.

"The PCP has referred me to see a specialist, he's worried about this strange tumor" - that'll be 10 weeks, at 7am in the morning, on the other side of town. If you cancel it'll be another 10 weeks.

"I'd like to see a dentist" - Sorry, no.

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JustAUselessThrwaway t1_j19jo65 wrote

You must not be familiar with American healthcare.

My PCP is booking in February, and I would be overjoyed with a specialist who could see me as soon as 10 weeks out.

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nationalmoz t1_j19ka2i wrote

I live in NYC. Have done for years. Can see a PCP this afternoon if I want, could probably see a top 10 specialist within a week. Pretty standard work-based insurance.

Try Zocdoc. You shouldn't be waiting til Feb in NYC man.

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D14DFF0B t1_j19u5go wrote

> I live in NYC. Have done for years. Can see a PCP this afternoon if I want, could probably see a top 10 specialist within a week.

[x] doubt.

I just booked a pediatric ENT appointment and they were scheduled through mid-February.

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nationalmoz t1_j19x6rk wrote

Checked Zocdoc and earliest available is Jan 13.

Bit longer at three weeks, but still a fraction of how long you'd wait in UK.

Meanwhile availability for cardiologists, gastroenterologists, etc all abundant. I could go today, even.

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Grass8989 t1_j19nyxp wrote

I second Zocdoc. I’ve gotten appts with specialists the next day.

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SolitaryMarmot t1_j19kqnv wrote

Where can I get a two week appointment with a PCP!?!? I routinely wait a month or more. I'm on 4 months trying to get an endocrinologist who takes my insurance in the health system I use.

This would be a huge improvement

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nationalmoz t1_j19kyul wrote

What insurance do you have?

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SolitaryMarmot t1_j19l6ox wrote

An Empire Blue Cross HRA. And I use the Mt Sinai health system, I have almost no out of pocket costs there.

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nationalmoz t1_j19m940 wrote

Ran it through Zocdoc.

Dr. Andrew H. Maran, MD

Dec 27, 9 appts available.

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For Primary Care there are hundreds available today alone.

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SolitaryMarmot t1_j19ngas wrote

not in my provider directory, not part of Sinai doctors, and not anywhere near me.

but yeah sure

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nationalmoz t1_j19ovtv wrote

Covered by your insurance, in your city, and available next week.

I'm sorry to say, but if that isn't good enough for you - you'd fuckin hate the NHS.

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SolitaryMarmot t1_j19ua7q wrote

Literally NOT in my provider directory. So NOT covered by my insurance. And not even remotely affiliated with the health system I use. ZocDoc is just ads. Its not an actual provider directory.
Specialist wait times have been skyrocketing in urban areas in the last two to three years. Dermatology is up to over a month on average. OB is as well. Cardiology is just about a month. Wait times in some specialties are higher than in Canada now. Its a real problem.

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nationalmoz t1_j19wmnf wrote

>Dermatology is up to over a month on average. OB is as well. Cardiology is just about a month.

Yep but you're looking at 2/3 months for those in the UK.

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mission17 t1_j19ldck wrote

All of these conversations are ones that middle class Americans already have.

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NetQuarterLatte t1_j1bqn4k wrote

That’s way better than having to prepare a bribe to the doctor and buying medicines in the black market.

You might have an inconvenient public health care system, but it could be a lot worse..

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