Submitted by goodguyfdny t3_zsoed5 in nyc
veggie_bail t1_j19bzyz wrote
Reply to comment by EvanMcD3 in ‘Major Trustee, Please Prioritize’: How NYU’s E.R. Favors the Rich by goodguyfdny
But the article is talking about prioritizing VIPs over sicker people in the ER. Which no hospital openly does.
dr_feelz t1_j1a0pli wrote
The article talks about that but doesn't provide any evidence, despite speaking with 50+ doctors. It's trying to shock you by saying Ken Langone wasn't treated in the hallway. Wow. If other patients weren't treated because Ken Langone was there, you can be pretty sure the "journalists" would have included that info.
rioht t1_j1ar0fu wrote
The article directly cites a number of doctors and at the end of it, cites that the Accreditation Council for Graduate Medical Education has found that NYU Langone has a VIP system that "teaches resident patient bias".
Seems like pretty solid evidence that NYU Langone prioritizes donors and trustees.
With that said, this is the way that systems work almost everywhere - if you know someone or are "important" in some way, you get treated better. This is not something likely to change.
What I find distasteful is the implication that those who protest this system get retaliated against/fired. That seems like a step way too far.
nyuncat t1_j1b2jjr wrote
There are multiple examples of what you are describing in the article. I would recommend reading it all the way through before participating in the discussion, as a general practice.
lispenard1676 t1_j1f6ce2 wrote
Hear hear. There's a lot of irresponsible comments being made in this comment section.
Delaywaves t1_j1b56ez wrote
From the article:
>In late 2019, doctors were racing to rescue a patient in cardiac arrest. One pushed the gurney toward one of the private rooms meant for life-or-death emergencies. Another sat atop the unconscious patient, performing chest compressions. When they arrived at the room, they could not enter — a V.I.P. occupied it. The patient survived, but two workers who witnessed the episode said the delay could have been deadly.
foradil t1_j1d9vtc wrote
>they could not enter — a V.I.P. occupied it
Could they enter other (non-VIP) occupied rooms?
Delaywaves t1_j1db2dd wrote
I don't know, man, but two medical workers said "the delay could have been deadly," which is enough evidence for me that this is a fucked up practice. Why's everyone in the comments desperate to defend this multibillion-dollar medical institution?
foradil t1_j1dbzhi wrote
>Why's everyone in the comments desperate to defend this multibillion-dollar medical institution?
It just seems like a hit-piece. This is a good problem to tackle, but is it NYU-specific? Why not look at nearby comparable institutions like Weill Cornell/Columbia and Mount Sinai as well?
Delaywaves t1_j1dhfnr wrote
Well I'm guessing because they don't have policies this egregious.
The article itself mentions that Mt. Sinai and Weill Cornell "offer luxury accommodations and personal concierge services to patients who can afford them," so it's not like they're being ignored — but prioritizing rich people for emergency treatment seems like it may be unique to NYU.
foradil t1_j1dq9mh wrote
That quote does not address the ER policies explicitly and NYU would issue a similar statement if asked. I would like to know which rich person was waiting in the hallways of Mount Sinai or Weill Cornell. No one is willing to offer a quote of how they are just like a commoner?
oy_says_ake t1_j1dbz7w wrote
“Doesn’t provide any evidence”
come on lisa, the times gave your claims plenty of coverage already.
rextilleon t1_j1a7xor wrote
And in this case its bogus.
Grass8989 t1_j19nl4f wrote
Everyone gets triaged and everything is documented electronically. If someone was on deaths door and it was documented as such and the hospital got sued/audited it would be a major issue.
veggie_bail t1_j19nwzd wrote
Well one of their accreditations is on probation according to the article, so someone did some sort of audit and found issues. But sure whatever man
ripstep1 t1_j1d3lmc wrote
Those are purely technical issues lmao. You are talking about medical accreditation like you know anything about it
veggie_bail t1_j1dhex8 wrote
Thanks for your enlightening explanation!
What's with all the comments saying "no, NYU doesn't do that...trust me"?
ripstep1 t1_j1drzym wrote
And you trust a journalist who knows absolutely nothing about anything?
Grass8989 t1_j1ai4oi wrote
Where in this article does it say that someone died because a VIP was in a private room?
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