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Actually this is NOT what the data says. It says in Oct 2022 it hit a record of people in city/state run shelters. Not overall homelessness. It spiked by like 20k people in Sep/Oct 2022 for some reason. That is weird -- looking at all the past data, this has never happened and huge spikes are not common. Which means something is not explained here, something changed on a dime. Not sure what it is but anyone looking at the data would take away that some outside factor changed or methodology changed

https://www.coalitionforthehomeless.org/facts-about-homelessness/

Where is affordable housing?

Does this include the migrants who are in the shelters?

Spike could have been to other states sending migrants in buses to NYC perhaps?

Don’t know. Maybe. But I’d hesitate to make assumption due to it being so unusual and me not knowing the methodology

Phasing that out

Ask the CPI.

That's a really good question.

Yeah... correlation doesn't necessarily mean causation etc!

Sorry, best we can do is "market rate."

So freaking sad

I was in Manhattan in October and walked from Penn to the Lower East Side and had commented to my friend then that I have never seen so many homeless persons in all my years of coming in. She suggested maybe Covid was a factor since so many people lost their wages during that time.

I know that’s around when I renewed my lease, and price of my rent went up. It seems like everyone in the city has had a decent jump in there rent. Maybe this year it forced a lot of people onto the streets? Like a nail in the coffin.

Do you actually think that the people living on the streets were paying 3k a month for an apartment a few months ago, but when they went to renew their lease the increase was too much so they’re homeless on the street?

September and October is around the time we received 20,000+ migrants.

This is exactly it. We received 20-25K.

No. But it’s $1,500-1,900 now for a 1-bedroom shitty apartment in a shitty building in a shitty area of the South Bronx or East New York. How do people expect somebody making minimum wage to keep up with this rising rent when it costs nearly twice that much income to afford it?

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How many are working poor POC making 20-40k and are being ignored for affordable housing and being pushed aside by migrants and government dependents because they are working Americans? I know two city workers who sleep in their car or sleep at Hostels because they are afraid of going in the shelter system because their jobs go past curfew, it's dangerous and people get treated like subhumans.

Can you imagine not being able to qualify for Medicare or public housing because you make too much, but make too little because of the high cost of housing in NYC.

Do you think that that doesn’t happen? Maybe they weren’t paying 3k, maybe they were living there for along enough time that they were paying an amount that they could afford. Maybe the landlord got greedy and sold the building or raised the rent to meet market rate, and they could no longer afford the rent.

We haven’t gotten nearly that many from busing.

“But Mateus, who is among the more than 21,400 migrants and asylum-seekers who have come to New York since the spring, remains barred from employment by federal policy. These people are part of a wave of new arrivals as Republican-led states have sent buses up from the southern border.”

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna54862

That doesn’t say how many of the 21k were bused from other cities.

This is from September, but note the large gap between the reported total number of migrants who had arrived in NYC (11k) and those who were bused from Texas (2.5k).

The point being, most of the migrants who have come to NYC this year were not bused from Texas. They came here through other paths.

Edit: I enjoy when people downvote me because they don’t like a fact I referenced.

Migrants have been arriving steadily since May. By September about 11k had already arrived.

For some reason everyone is downvoting facts, pretty wild.

You are correct!!

Why are you focusing on Texas specifically though?

My understanding is that Texas sent the most migrants by a huge margin. The other states don’t amount to much in total. I could have said “other states” and the point would still be true—and the point is that shitty reporting appears to have created a widespread belief that all (or even most) of the migrants that have come to NYC were sent by red state governors. I’ve seen no evidence in any data that that’s true, and the data I’ve seen about how many Texas sent makes clear that it’s not true.

yes it does. instead of immediately deporting illegals who broke the law let’s pay for them to stay!

this may come as a shock to you but many non-POC also make that much. but let’s make everything about race!

Not according to statistics

https://citylimits.org/2022/10/14/with-homeless-population-at-all-time-high-public-advocate-calls-for-citywide-shelter-plan/

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>[...]64,077 individuals stayed in a shelter administered by DHS on Oct. 10, data tracked daily by City Limits shows. That’s up from 46,591 on Jan. 2, before a growing number of recently arrived immigrants made their way to New York City from the southern border as statewide eviction protections ended and average rents continued to skyrocket.

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>“The increase in the shelter census is fueled by rising numbers of people entering the system, by bureaucratic bottlenecks precluding residents from transitioning into permanent and safe affordable housing quickly,” the two organizations said. ['Legal Aid Society' and 'Coalition for the Homeless']