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Les923 t1_j1p7jbr wrote

I would hate to be the owner of that truck!

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Miser OP t1_j1r554y wrote

Me too, because that would imply I thought it was ever a good idea to buy a pickup truck

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SexyPeanut_9279 t1_j1r7m6n wrote

Believe or not some people work outside for a living, and that work requires a truck (I know, wild!)

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TheSpaceBetweenUs__ t1_j1r9rti wrote

90% of pickup owners haul stuff less than once a year.

Also what good is a pickup in NYC when cargo vans exist?

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hockey_metal_signal t1_j1reehi wrote

Well, 99% of the time AWD isn't necessary in NYC either. Yet nobody shits on all the Subarus and SUV's on the road.

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QS2Z t1_j1rh9eu wrote

Having AWD doesn't make your car more likely to mangle pedestrians though lmao

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TheSpaceBetweenUs__ t1_j1rl89c wrote

Go on r/fuckcars to see how much people hate SUV's. I think pickups get more hate because their drivers tend to shape their personalities around owning it

The Tyre Extinguishers in the UK in fact target expensive SUV's in London

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Playful_Question538 t1_j1ted9y wrote

100% of people could give a shit what you think about what anyone drives. Mind your own business. When you pay for it, you can decide.

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TheSpaceBetweenUs__ t1_j1vwsrm wrote

Weird, you have to get a drivers license to drive and a CDL to drive heavy vehicles, kinda proving it is everyone's business what heavy machinery you operate around squishy vulnerable humans.

If drivers didn't kill 40,000 people a year, maybe you'd have a point

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Playful_Question538 t1_j1xvtkk wrote

You have to get a drivers license to drive any vehicle. You only need a CDL If you're over 26,000 lbs. You can drive a 3/4 ton diesel truck with a gooseneck trailer loaded down and don't need a CDL unless you're over 26,000 lbs.

That's probably what should be changed. When a person with a license to drive a smart car can tow tractors in diesel pickup trucks with no training or special license I agree with you that could become a dangerous situation.

I just don't think a guy that buys a pickup truck to haul a couple trees and some mulch for his yard should be judged or licensed separately from other drivers. It's really his business what he buys and it doesn't matter how often he uses it.

I did come off harsh and you didn't so I apologize for that. You seem like a nice person.

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TheSpaceBetweenUs__ t1_j1ywhy8 wrote

I mean if I see a older pickup that's obviously used for that purpose I don't judge. They used to be roughly the same size as a sedan (and often had bigger beds anyway) and thus weren't any more dangerous. I don't think that's a problem.

However over the years these new pickups keep getting bigger heavier and more dangerous. Their visibility is getting increasingly poor for seeing anything around it, and I think the regulations should be updated to fix that.

Also the ridiculous modifications some people are putting on their pickups to make them even bigger and heavier should be outright banned or at least have some kind of regulatory process. These drivers are turning their vehicles into monster trucks without anything stopping them. They can now run over any regular sized car instead of crashing

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Playful_Question538 t1_j22xsyd wrote

New York is one of the most lax states on vehicles modifications. As long as it's short enough to fit through the Lincoln tunnel it's legal and as long as the bumper is no higher than 30" from the ground it's legal. There aren't really other laws as far as building a really ridiculous truck that annoys every single person in the neighborhood.

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Sharlach t1_j1rarnm wrote

Some people need trucks for work, but most truck owners do not though. Wild, I know!

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mankiw t1_j1rddkd wrote

extended cab with a short bed lmao. try to haul anything bigger than a bicycle in that

call it what it is: an suv with a truck accessory on the back

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Playful_Question538 t1_j1tfcou wrote

My truck has a smaller bed than that. I have a crew cab. The bed has a gooseneck ball in it. That way I can pull a gooseneck trailer. I can throw wheel chocks and chains in the bed when I'm towing. I've pulled a lot of bicycles into numerous cities with this set up. My son has the same set up and delivers and picks up rental toys.

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Loud_Step2361 t1_j1siamh wrote

I would never use a truck this small on a real job in the city. 1/2 ton trucks are a horrible compromise between a daily driver and a lawn tender. Most of the pickups that show up on my job sites are crew arriving, usually alone. My use of them is usually people movers and a golfer, to carry lunch back for site etc...

3/4 ton truck aren't too much better but at least I can throw a welder in back of one without it ripping though the cargo bed

OK i ve once used 1/2 tonner with bed cover as a hazards chemicals and stuff cause I didt want to contaminate or lose a truck.

Residential Home renovation in the city usually go cargo vans as it offers sort of secure storage. Landscaping go retired16ft uhaul trucks same reason with more cargo space.

Can't speak to major exterior jobs in Suburban areas.

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Miser OP t1_j1raumz wrote

Virtually nobody that has a pickup truck uses it for manual labor. There are some folks that do, I'm sure, but pickup trucks are mainly used for virtue signaling. Go to any Walmart or college campus parking lot in the south if you want to see what I mean. Real laborers more often use vans which are easier to store things in, far cheaper, can be locked more easily, etc.

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Playful_Question538 t1_j1tfme2 wrote

Bed covers lock and carry tools so why do care what other people drive?

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Miser OP t1_j1tg1b2 wrote

Because the larger a vehicle is the more dangerous and deadly it is to those outside of it? Are you asking me seriously why I care if kids are killed by things? Because you know that's who is killed in huge numbers by increasingly large vehicles right? Kids and elderly people? You are aware this is an actual thing that's happening in the world, right?

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Playful_Question538 t1_j1tik4z wrote

Some people drive vehicles that are large for work. I own a company that has large vehicles with trailers. That's how I make a living. In the 33 years that I've driven large vehicles with trailers I've never had an accident. That's because I'm a responsible driver.

If a lot of kids are getting killed where you live I would suggest contacting politicians and request more stringent training and licensing processes.

Without large vehicles we wouldn't get food or anything delivered to us for our convenience.

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