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oreosfly t1_j2zoa3a wrote

> Lime is owned by Uber and CitiBike is owned by Lyft. I never seen or heard this much hate for personal car ownership from Native New Yorkers until recently.

Are you sure it isn't just Reddit? Most people don't live their life thinking about urban planning

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ThinVast t1_j31109p wrote

100% just reddit. Even then, for most redditors here it's not really about urban planning. It's like pop science to them and they don't actually try to learn the nuances and the complexity of urban planning. So they really think it's just about hating on cars which is not the point. Nobody I know in real life especially my former professors that study urban planning express hatred of car as much as redditors.

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Shoppinguin t1_j31f72s wrote

You absolutely don't need to be an expert to figure this out. Common sense is more than enough to do it. You have a given space for traffic in which you have to fit the transport demand in. Now go figure what works better to fit more people into a given space. Public transit or cars. Shared cars aren't supposedly as bad, as there are usually more people riding than if each of them had a car. I'm speechless how noone appears to have figured out that improving public transit is the answer to congestion. "Hate on cars" is just a lame excuse for laziness and not wanting sensible change. It's doesn't need hate to see why more lanes and more cars are no solution to congestion. Really, it's not that hard to figure out.

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ThinVast t1_j33bya6 wrote

Except that there are users on reddit that legitimately hate the existence of cars and think vandalizing cars and blaming individuals for driving cars is part of the solution.

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cdavidg4 t1_j33thie wrote

On the flip side there are users on reddit who can't comprehend a world where your can't drive to each and every residence/business and park directly out front. You see it every time a small street closure is proposed or parking is repurposed. All of sudden that small block or parking spot is the most essential in the whole neighborhood.

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Key-Recognition-7190 t1_j34adj8 wrote

I can't speak for other users but I'd be absolutely okay with primarily using public transit if it wasn't a steaming pile of crap. The metric i use is simple when the mta system can run an 8th as efficiently as Tokyo rails I'll sell my car.

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