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101ina45 t1_j33jy5k wrote

Reply to comment by ApplicationNo2506 in Traffic study by former head of NYC DOT reveals what he says is ultimate cause of congestion by HEIMDVLLR

Solution is simple, put cameras at each intersection and make it an auto $100 fine.

Won't solve the fake paper plates, but it's a start.

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kolt54321 t1_j33q4ju wrote

Clearly fines in the past have solved congestion. Right?

I wouldn't be surprised if the city did it anyway to raise funds. Just like putting school limits into effect 24/7 for... what reason again?

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dorgsmack t1_j34a7ce wrote

Enforceable fines absolutely work. This whole “fines wont stop people” is absolute nonsense. Slap a $300 ticket for blocking an intersection or running a stop sign and actually enforce it. In a couple months everybody is going to have some respect. Is it going to solve congestion ? No, but it’s a start towards wrangling this chaos. It works in LA, no reason it shouldn’t work here.

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kolt54321 t1_j34atlk wrote

I agree, but the whole point is to stop congestion. This does little to help it.

There's already lines of cars 5 roads deep in transit deserts in Brooklyn. "Respect" isn't going to do anything to help.

Not only that, they enforce fines in ways that make them the most money. Just like that camera they put right off the ramp of Shore Parkway to catch everyone who was actually doing highway speed.

And similarly, putting school zone cameras in effect 24/7. There is no good reason why anyone needs to be going 15mph on Saturday at midnight.

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dorgsmack t1_j34cjh1 wrote

Maybe not, but if there’s other illegal actions that are making congestion worse, then pull people over and fine them. Might be too logical for the bureaucrats though.

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kolt54321 t1_j34em57 wrote

I agree with you. Paper plates are a big one though and not caught by cameras.

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movingtobay2019 t1_j352je7 wrote

Then make it so the first 2 or 3 violations get tossed out.

I admit I speed all the fucking time but I pay the fine if I get a ticket.

The lawlessness in the city just has to stop. If we need to start impounding cars, then so be it.

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kolt54321 t1_j35jn05 wrote

I'm with you on all accounts, but I don't think it would be implemented in a reasonable way.

We have infrastructure issues way beyond lawlessness. Transforming Ocean Parkway like I mentioned in other comments would be a great start.

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101ina45 t1_j33q8dq wrote

I mean, I think the 14th st bus lane fine worked but I conceded I'm not an expert on the subject.

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kolt54321 t1_j344nbk wrote

Fines for bus lanes are fantastic, but don't solve car congestion, they solve bus congestion (which is worthy in its own right).

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