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Evening_Presence_927 t1_j6nu9ux wrote

Reply to comment by markbass69420 in A Housing Plan for Manhattan’s Empty Spaces by psychothumbs

Bullshit it is. Please show us where all the affordable housing is being built.

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Even_Acadia3085 t1_j6nwr9o wrote

It's being built in other cities! NYC has a lot of demand from rich people from around the world who want a place in New York. Us regular types have to make do with a patchwork of rent-controlled, public, market rate, and subsidized units that fall somewhere in between. It's a supply and demand problem where the supply is constrained by do-gooders who don't seem to realize that the perfect can be the enemy of the good. Manhattan will always have a high cost of land so it'll never be truly affordable but we could in some dream world once again build Potemkin Mitchell-Lama villages...but those aren't coming given the mood in Washington. The nimbys who SAY they want affordable housing are really working to doom it. They work to stop building anything which lowers supply and do nothing to reduce NYC's insanely high cost of labor (exacerbated by union rules) that makes building anything but luxury condos prohibitive.

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Evening_Presence_927 t1_j6nxn5p wrote

It’s not even good, though. How come the poor are forced to fight for expensive scraps while the rich get the lion’s share of housing?

> They work to stop building anything which lowers supply and do nothing to reduce NYC's insanely high cost of labor (exacerbated by union rules) that makes building anything but luxury condos prohibitive.

Ah yes, if we only got rid of those pesky unions and treated the poor like the animals they are, everything would be fine.

Give me a fucking break.

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markbass69420 t1_j6nwxp7 wrote

I don't understand what point you're trying to make, and I don't think you do, either.

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Evening_Presence_927 t1_j6nxe3v wrote

My point is you can’t just blanket throw out accusations of nimbyism at every critique of the city’s half-assed plan to expand housing. The housing market can’t sustain building only luxury apartments.

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markbass69420 t1_j6ogqnp wrote

>My point is you can’t just blanket throw out accusations of nimbyism at every critique of the city’s half-assed plan to expand housing

Then it's a shitty point.

>The housing market can’t sustain building only luxury apartments.

Lmao this is exactly why it's fine to call anyone who says "I like housing, but...." a nimby. Vaguely complaining about "affordability" and "luxury" is NIMBY 101. You're literally the problem.

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Evening_Presence_927 t1_j6oqz3f wrote

> Then it's a shitty point.

Just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean it’s shitty.

> Lmao this is exactly why it's fine to call anyone who says "I like housing, but...." a nimby. Vaguely complaining about "affordability" and "luxury" is NIMBY 101. You're literally the problem.

No, you’re the problem, because you have no plan for keeping housing affordable.

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markbass69420 t1_j6p34y1 wrote

>Just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean it’s shitty.

You're right. I don't like it and it's a shitty point.

>you have no plan for keeping housing affordable.

Sure I do. I'm not the one adding a "but" at even the vague notion of building housing.

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