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HelllllloooooPerson t1_j6j1lq1 wrote

I frankly dont get the obsession of some people over this stuff. Unpopular Opinion Im sure. Look we all get un-spoken perks to our jobs, city workers MAKE SHIT wages. These infractions really dont hinder me at all.

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MasterInterface t1_j6j5dd6 wrote

Because if they hit someone and run, no one can identify them. Many of them drive recklessly too because they probably know that consequences are hard to tie back to them.

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m1kasa4ckerman t1_j6jnu7u wrote

Lol a 4 year old kid was killed by a driver with fake plates. Hit & run.

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DoubleBlanket t1_j6k0wjm wrote

Just another perk of the job, bro.

God people like this is so fucking annoying. They don’t not care enough to move on with their day. They don’t care so much that they have to come in these posts and tell other people they’re weird because they care too much.

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AgainstMedicalAdvice t1_j6j6q9i wrote

Speeding endangers you, and tolls pay for your municipal services in place of taxes.

Would you be upset if you found out that 20% of police commit tax fraud?

I don't understand this mindset that just because someone is not literally removing your wallet from your pocket and taking money out of it- nothing bad is happening.

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HelllllloooooPerson t1_j6jezaa wrote

because if you have the ability to see the macro side of things, these things are smaller and small peas. I get it, the world needs people like you to keep others like this honest and push for fairness. But its just whining to me.

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AgainstMedicalAdvice t1_j6jfv10 wrote

You are literally failing to see the macro side.

1 person doing these things is a non-issue. On an individual level all these things are benign.

On a macro scale things like dodging speed cameras/ tolls, subway fare jumping, parking illegally, leaving shopping carts out, shoplifting, etc.... Are bad for society.

You live in NYC dude. 1 "it doesn't really matter it's nothing" x 8,000,000 people turns into a big deal real fast. The fact that only 5% of people are immoral enough to do it just means it's manageable....

Social pressures that move that 5% to 4% are good, and enabling behavior that pushes that 5% to 6% is bad.

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TeamMisha t1_j6l1i21 wrote

These things add up on the macro scale. Just one person at LIRR accrued nearly $500 thousand of fraudulent overtime pay in one year. That is one person. The MTA estimated last year it loses almost $50 million a year on toll fraud. That's money that has to come from somewhere. It all adds up.

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SolutionRelative4586 t1_j6k36p0 wrote

> I frankly dont get the obsession of some people over this stuff.

Probably because:

  1. it is dangerous. People drive like assholes and kill other people and then can't be found and detained.

  2. It demonstrates contempt for the law and the citizens you serve. If you don't want to serve citizens, great. Don't be a public servant for your job. No one is asking these assholes to be public servants.

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Isawthebeets t1_j6jtlpl wrote

The bigger question I even have is why drive in the first place? I mean Lirr is probably cheaper to ride in from Ronkonkoma isn’t it?

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Sickpup831 t1_j6oyo7l wrote

That’s a good question. A monthly pass on the lirr is like 400 a month. And then unless you live in walking distance of Penn or Atlantic terminal, the monthly metro card is 127. So does driving with free parking cost more than 527 a month?

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SSumair t1_j6lbh2d wrote

I honestly don’t care who evades tolls or speeding/red light tickets but it would be divine to able identify the degenerate that hits my car or relative, then potentially flees the scene.

Cops or city workers are not angels ordained by God, they are regular people working for a paycheck, same as the next guy. As such, they are not above breaking the law, such hitting someone and running from responsibility, especially if they think they can get away with it due to their incognito license plate info. Their lack of good character evident by their attempt at avoiding tolls/tickets sort of supports this assumption.

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-Handsome-Jim- t1_j6jv6rn wrote

> I frankly dont get the obsession of some people over this stuff

Reddit hates cops. That's pretty much all it amounts to.

I mean I don't think they should be doing it but constantly having pictures of cops breaking a very minor traffic law on the front page of this sub just seems childish. This sub wouldn't care at all if they had any other occupation.

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_aware t1_j6k0ll0 wrote

>I mean I don't think they should be doing it but constantly having pictures of cops breaking a very minor traffic law on the front page of this sub just seems childish. This sub wouldn't care at all if they had any other occupation.

It's a very minor crime until one of these fuckers hits and kills a pedestrian before running off. Keep licking those boots.

Law enforcers intentionally breaking the law with impunity. Of course it's worse than some other guy breaking the same law.

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-Handsome-Jim- t1_j6k1ylw wrote

I'm licking boots for pointing out that I think it's wrong but harping on it as much as you do is childish?

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_aware t1_j6k5ava wrote

You are downplaying the severity of this evidently widespread issue for the cops. So yes, that sure fits the definition of bootlicking.

People are harping on it because no action is being taken to punish law enforcers who are intentionally breaking the very laws they are suppose to enforce.

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thecentury t1_j6n1u98 wrote

>You are downplaying the severity of this evidently widespread issue for the cops.

Widespread? I'd really like to know your definition of the term widespread when speaking of the NYPD. There's 40,000 employees in the NYPD. If this is so widespread you're telling me.... I don't know.... 25,000 NYPD employees are out there blocking plates, running red lights, and breaking vehicle traffic law?

Do realize the daily shit show the roads would be if this were true?

Or in reality, maybe a few hundred or so are doing stupid shit like this. 200 out of 40,000 total employees, or 0 .5%. In reality 1/2 of 1% of the NYPD are acting like assholes. (I guess 0.5% to you is widespread)

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-Handsome-Jim- t1_j6k5znk wrote

I'm not down playing the severity.

It's a minor traffic violation. Heck, it's so common place that you might even do it yourself. You're just throwing a temper tantrum because you don't like cops. That's all.

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_aware t1_j6k7o2n wrote

Do you know what downplaying means? It hinders the identification of vehicles in hit and runs. It also hinders the identification of vehicles that run red lights. So it's not just a minor traffic violation.

Nice strawman. I like cops that do their jobs. In my very limited encounters with NYPD, their officers had been professionals and treated me well.

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-Handsome-Jim- t1_j6k8gel wrote

Yes, I do know what downplaying means. Do you?

We're talking about them obstructing their license plate. That's an extremely minor traffic violation. That's not downplaying it. It's an accurate summation of exactly what it is.

I mean what do you think the punishment is for someone who doesn't have an occupation you hate who obstructs their license plate? Execution? Life in prison?

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SolutionRelative4586 t1_j6llg7p wrote

No. We don't like anyone who does it.

You were the first person on the thread to mention cops. Why do you assume it's cops? Is it because you and I both know it is?

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DoubleBlanket t1_j6k1t2w wrote

…?

What?

Yes. People who are in charge of enforcing the law violating the law with systemic impunity is inherently worse.

That’s like saying, “Plenty of people don’t wash their hands. You only care that this guy didn’t wash his hands because he’s a surgeon.”

Yeah, absolutely. The context of what a person’s responsibilities are make how we evaluate them different from other people with different responsibilities. If you don’t want the responsibilities no one’s forcing you to do the job.

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-Handsome-Jim- t1_j6k2mv0 wrote

That's an awful analogy even for this sub.

A surgeon going into surgery without sanitizing creates an insane amount of risk that has absolutely nothing to do with a cop obstructing their license plate. Sure, I'd care if my surgeon didn't wash his hands going into surgery but I couldn't care less if he didn't wash his hands going into just about anything else.

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DoubleBlanket t1_j6k43ax wrote

Dude, police should not be allowed use their own discretion to police themselves. That should be obvious.

How would you feel if IRS agents didn’t pay taxes because other IRS agents didn’t enforce consequences against them?

You can’t see how impunity from the law (a) creates a culture in which police feel they can do whatever they want, and (b) why that justifiably upsets people?

Like, what exactly do you think it is people hate about cops? Or are you one of those guys who think people only hate because they’re #jealoushaters?

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