sahmadeit t1_j6jhctc wrote
Don’t blame them, imagine having to pay $6.55 to cross a bridge to get into a borough in the SAME city (bx to qns). Toll Bridges were meant to be temporary but now, it’s permanent. Where does all this money go?
emeyer94 t1_j6ji11d wrote
Why not blame them? Everyone else has to pay why are they special?
sahmadeit t1_j6k9t3s wrote
I’m in more of a sense for everybody, city officials or regular civilians. Where are the improvements in transportation and roads in general? Van wyck has been under construction since I was born, Bronx river has potholes bigger than someone of our anus’s, MTA trains are a piece of shit and gets worse as time goes by. Where are the improvements? I’ve been to other democrat cities and seen tax dollars at work. Take CA for an example, granted it’s huge in size and population but, seeing a “your tax dollars at work” at a construction site is calming for a regular citizen. Their work of improved roads sells itself. You can lick the government balls all you want, you’re livelihood is a paycheck to them. I can get downvoted all I want I could give 2 shits, if you truly lived in New York for your entire life, you’d know how slow improvements have been. This is coming from someone that’s in support of law enforcement and comes from a family of law enforcement just in case someone starts generalizing.
Zoidberg-thuggin t1_j6kexxd wrote
What a big fat fucking strawman of an argument. Everybody includes your family, cops, who are also civilians (supposedly). The audacity you have to ask for us to give them a break when everyone else has to pay is offensive.
sahmadeit t1_j6l8kn9 wrote
Reading is fundamental and I strongly urge you to read the first sentence. Seriously, it’ll do you rounds of favor. ROUNDS. I included everyone that breathes and walk and identifies as a human being. No need to read in between some line that doesn’t exist.
sagenumen t1_j6jkpqa wrote
Uhh. So they can break the law because they don’t want to pay $6.55? That’s your argument?
sahmadeit t1_j6kaatd wrote
I’m aware you ride a bike which is hella convenient for the environment but for people who don’t work in the city and need to drive out. Justify paying $12.55 (both way tolls) on top of gas everyday + maintenance to keep your job. Not everyone can be eco-friendly because not everyone got the same privilege as everyone else.
sagenumen t1_j6kfi4v wrote
I see. So, they can break the law because they choose to drive into the city and don’t want to pay for it?
sahmadeit t1_j6l96ra wrote
Where did I tell them to break the law? How about some more economical pricing for daily commuters? An efficient route? Removal of unnecessary fees just because you were short of 50 cents? Where did I mention anything about driving into the city? When tolls exist within borough to borough. If you live in the east Bronx, you’re not driving through the city tolls to go to Long Island. You’re going through RFK or Whitestone. Not everything revolves around the city as a whole. Long Island city and Staten Island still exists if you’ve resided in nyc fair enough to know. You’re picking and choosing what you want to argue about.Introduce better/economical practices = less evasion. Everyone downvoting has no sense of logical arguments, just “YOU’RE SO WRONG”, no counterarguments, no sense of understanding a fairground.
sagenumen t1_j6n8zqp wrote
Did I accuse you of telling them to break the law? No, I didn't, but they are breaking the law and you're trying to justify it.
There are inter-borough routes without tolls. There is also public transit. They may not like the choices, but they're there.
There are solutions that don't amount to everyone else subsidizing car ownership for people who decide they shouldn't have to pay because they're special.
The convenient route is either worth a few bucks or it's not. I don't know why that's everyone else's problem.
NYCBikeLanes OP t1_j6jhsto wrote
That's a myth.
Example: As Verrazano Bridge Turns 50, a Myth About Its Tolls Persists
TeamMisha t1_j6l24kg wrote
For MTA operated bridges and tunnels it funds their operational budget. The Operating budget is what keeps the lights on, the trains and buses running, the bridges in stable condition, and the staff employed. 12% of the MTA is funded by tolls. You can read more about it here: https://new.mta.info/budget/MTA-operating-budget-basics
12% is significant considering just twice that amount is what they get from fare revenue. To not toll the crossings would be a disaster.
sahmadeit t1_j6la225 wrote
I hear you, 12% is reported in the books but who knows what the actual number REALLY is? There’s multiple instances of fraud within the MTA system.
Here’s something to entertain your brain
There’s more to everything. Always is when taxpayer money is involved.
TeamMisha t1_j6lqyay wrote
I don't believe labor inefficiency is a reason to ignore blatant crime. Accountability is a separate issue for another thread. If you argument is well the MTA commits fraud itself therefore stealing from the tolls is justified, gonna have to disagree on that 1
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