AlwaysNextGeneration OP t1_iyc8aux wrote
Reply to comment by graphixgurl747 in My mother passed away and my father told me to pay 3000 dollars for the W2 salary from my mother. by AlwaysNextGeneration
You are right. I updated it.
theoriginalharbinger t1_iych7kj wrote
Like, you're going to get down Voted because while you are using a lot of words, relevant detail and chronology is missing. Put this in a chronology, like:
January 2009: Parents divorce
February 2010:Post divorce judgment awarded to my father in the sum of 3000, against my mother
Etc.
I can't figure out what happened, let alone what your inquiry is
AlwaysNextGeneration OP t1_iycnp3g wrote
2009 my father filled divorced court.
2010 to 2012, my father started to delay the divorce court after my mother's lawyer told him my mother was going to pass away from breast cancer. My father successfully delaied the divorce court, so it wasn't really a divorce and he got my mother's house and sold it in 2015 or 2016.
In 2013 February, my mother passed away and left a Will. It was my brother who has the Will and enforced it.
From March 2013 to June 2013, my father came back to my mother's house, where I lived, and asked me to head to the Bank of America to get all the life insurance money.
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However, he told me that it wasn't the life insurance money. He said it was the money from the Will. At the same time, he asked my brother to give my money from the Will to him and transfer it to me. Thus, he stole my money from the Will, and I really thought I got my money from the Will. But, in fact, it was the life insurance. After that, he kept telling me to open a Chase account to store the life insurance money because I will have Chase bank benefit, so I opened it. A certain time after that, he used my new Chase bank checkbook to fraud the 50000 life insurance money from that new Chase bank account. He told me that he need to use that money to repair my mother's house. In the beginning, I really thought the Chase account was a co-account, so he can take it with an ask. But the Chase bank later told me it was from a check. He refused to return it to me after I personally ask him to return it.
In 2013 or 2014, I filed a check fraud case at the Monterey Park police department. The Monterey Park police department closed the case without notifying me because my father signed the paper with the detective that he will return the 50000 dollars immediately. My father kept telling me it was his money.
In December 2015, I went to the Monterey Park Police department to see the detective after the police multiple times refused to allow me to see the detective. In the same month, I finally saw the detective and he told me the case was closed because he thought my father returned the money to me. He said I lied to the police that the money was from the Will, and it was, in fact, from the life insurance. To be honest, if the detective didn't tell me that, I really do not know it was from the life insurance. The detective told me there is a large amount of money from the Will if I remember correctly.
The detective immediately called my father on the phone and asked him why he still did not return the money. My father told the detective, in the phone, that he doesn't have money.
From 2015 to 2016, my father promised to return the money from the Will and the money from the fraud. But there will be a certain discount on the return amount, including the 3000 dollar W2 tax.
That is why I ask here. Shouldn't the W2 tax already be paid before the employer gives the W2 Check? If so, I guess that 3000 dollar is a scam.
In 2016, I got the returned amount on those frauds and paid a couple of thousand dollars in that discount, including the 3000 dollars W2 Tax. My father even showed me the tax company who handled the 3000-dollar W2 Wax. Yes, I got my mother's W2 salary.
Side Note: 1) The police told me I shouldn't go against my father when I just filed the fraud case. He is my biological father, but I only knew him for less than 3 years. The first time truly lived with him was 2008. 2). I admit my English is bad. If someone say I should feel shame, I say I was born here legally. It was just my father sent me away when I was a child(to save money as a CFO or learn how to live alone).
Roccia19 t1_iyddy0y wrote
This is a very confusing situation, but a few thoughts...
Any tax liability your mom had should have been paid from her estate. Not by you.
Sounds like the administrator of the estate didn't uphold their fiduciary duty. There may be legal options here and you should review the will. If you do not have a copy, a copy can be obtained from the probate court clerk in the applicable jurisdiction. Assuming it was correctly administered.
Life insurance pays out to designated beneficiaries, typically outside of an estate. Your proceeds should have come directly from the insurance firm, not some shady let's split things at the bank trip.
Considering this mostly happened a long time ago, there is likely statute if limitations in play or soon to be which stand to prohibit pursuing these issues further. Ultimately a topic to discuss with a lawyer.
When it comes to financial matters, you clearly can not trust your family. You should assume any further inquiries money wise or related to the estate from your family is an attempt to defraud you.
High chance your identity has been compromised by a family member. Please review your free credit reports and establish credit freezes with the three credit bureaus.
Recommend organizing all supporting documents related to this. Especially if you epect to discuss with a lawyer. You should be able to obtain a free consultation on the case, but considering this is a very confusing situation either an attorney won't be interested or will require a sizeable retainer fee. It is distinctly possible you and a lawyer can recover no funds even if a judgement is won but you spending $5k+ on a lawyer is very likely. Look into law clinics at the local University or non profit, you may be able to gain some free legal guidance before pursuing formally.
At some point, you'll need to consider this a closed issue and move on. Granted you should never trust the applicable parties again.
theoriginalharbinger t1_iyecqr5 wrote
>From March 2013 to June 2013, my father came back to my mother's house, where I lived, and asked me to head to the Bank of America to get all the life insurance money.
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>However, he told me that it wasn't the life insurance money. He said it was the money from the Will. At the same time, he asked my brother to give my money from the Will to him and transfer it to me. Thus, he stole my money from the Will, and I really thought I got my money from the Will.
Again, you're meandering into really pointless detail while skimming over the highlights.
Missing from this is "Who is the executor?" And it's still confusing, because you contradict yourself in your first sentence ("asked me to head to the B of A to get all the life insurance money" vs your second sentence "He told me that it wasn't the life insurance money. He said it was the money from the Will")
debbiewith2 t1_iyc8shf wrote
Where is the question?
AlwaysNextGeneration OP t1_iycu2qz wrote
See the reply.
That is why I ask here. Shouldn't the W2 tax already be paid before the employer gives the W2 Check? If so, I guess that 3000 dollar is a scam.
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AlwaysNextGeneration OP t1_iycy0vm wrote
I can't tell it and that was what I had too. But my mother worked in a big company, so it shouldn't be working "under the table" to avoid the tax from the W-2 form or W-2 whatever.
I guess maybe the W-2 tax wasn't true.
I think the problem is not you do not understand or what. I don't understand too. How can the detective closed the case because my father signed the paper for returning the check fraud amount immediately? It just doesn't make sense. My father returned the fraud after telling me I need to pay the 3000 dollar W2 Tax. Thus, if it wasn't working "under the table", then I think the W-2 tax wasn't true.
Thank you for your answering.
debbiewith2 t1_iycvay9 wrote
If that is your question, then delete everything else in your post, other than the fact that your mother passed. Generally estimated taxes are withheld and then when the final tax return is filled there is a refund or taxes due. We don’t know if she under-withheld, overwithheld, or properly withheld. You would need to see her 1040. You also mentioned a will, which is why I suggested looking at the 1041 as well.
AlwaysNextGeneration OP t1_iycyd5j wrote
But wasn't the tax already paid if the salary check I got was from the W2 form?
debbiewith2 t1_iyf1p2i wrote
Tax may or may not have been withheld, but that doesn’t change how much was OWED.
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