Submitted by diatriose t3_1194c4z in philadelphia
ConcreteThinking t1_j9l5tid wrote
Reply to comment by 99centstalepretzel in Striking Temple University graduate students overwhelming vote down proposed contract by diatriose
Along with the $21k are they also getting paid tuition for their degree, paid fees, or a housing allowance? Or just $21,000 salary and they have to pay tuition and fees too?
Philodemus1984 t1_j9m3xmn wrote
Despite what OP is telling you, it’s standard for tuition to be waived for accepted PhD students in PhD programs in the US, whether elite or otherwise. There’s exceptions but if the program isn’t waiving your tuition, that’s rare and a huge red flag. Professional schools like law school and medical are a different story.
ConcreteThinking t1_j9o8199 wrote
That's kind of what I thought. I know people that went to Purdue and Connecticut and they basically paid some fees and that's all. The salary they got covered housing and some expenses. I think their out of pocket was less than $5000 a year.
99centstalepretzel t1_j9l6hz3 wrote
For most graduate programs in the US? It's the latter. Anything outside of very few elite universities and very specific programs (civil engineering is one of the few exceptions to this truism), you'd still have to pay some tuition, if not all of it.
I suspect that at best, it hasn't gotten any worse (in terms of dramatic changes in quality of education) from 10 years ago for graduate students. And that's exactly the problem - it hasn't gotten any easier for them, either.
Thinking of the gutting of funding in US universities, along with bloating the admin budgets that we've seen in the past few decades, it has only gotten worse for grad student funding in the US. In my grad school experience, I know a handful of folks who took their chances at being an international grad student at a university overseas and having to pay full tuition as international students (le gasp!), which still worked out than less than however much they would have owed here, in the States. And their degrees are still just as good, if not better, than some of the US universities.
neuroguy t1_j9lcdwr wrote
I’m 100 percent in support of the striking TAs, but that is incorrect in regards to tuition in PhD grad programs. Tuition remission in PhD programs is a nearly universal “benefit” for all schools elite and non. However, Masters and professional doctoral programs like psyD do not generally have remission.
99centstalepretzel t1_j9ldv27 wrote
Even if you do get paid as a Ph.D. student and/or a postdoc, more often than not the stipend that they get is still a small amount of money to live on. Lots of folks still have to eat/provide for their families, and that money has to come from somewhere, whether it's family or other sources.
College athletes get tuition remission, too, but there were cases of students going hungry and not being able to take care of themselves - that's why the NCAA allowing students athletes to make money from their likenesses is a BFD. I suspect grad students fall into this category, too. Tuition remission means jack shit when you can't afford to live.
People just don't go on strike for funsies.
neuroguy t1_j9lhrtn wrote
Did you actually read what I wrote?
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