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owenhinton98 t1_j9xd9hr wrote

Reply to comment by William_d7 in 78-Unit, Mixed-Use Project Approved in Fishtown by ColdJay64

Even conservative nimby people in the suburbs take septa in with their families, my dad is the worst kind of trumpy and he comes from an area that never has nor will ever see a transit system or even Amtrak/greyhound service, but even he always would take my siblings and me into the city via septa instead of driving, while we were very young I might add. If snotty suburban people can take their kids on the train, families in the city certainly can.

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William_d7 t1_j9zi7hr wrote

Hey, my dad took us to the city on the train too. From much of the suburbs going to Center City it’s clearly the easiest way. I even made an exception in my post for Regional Rail because it’s not a totally unpleasant shitshow like the MFL.

However, that’s not something we ever did if we wanted a quick dinner after school like the thread starter was talking about, rather a special occasion, all day downtown kind of thing (I suspect it would be the same for your family).

OP is saying he’d like to spend $$$ at a local business in the short time available after school and before bedtime but that increased density in that area has turned an easy 15 minute drive into a 10 minute walk+10 minutes on a train platform+20 minutes on the zombie train+10 walk and then do the same thing on the way home. Frankly, if you had kids you’d realize how daunting that is.

That’s business a place like Standard Tap could use midweek but could lose out on because of a lack of comprehensive city planning.

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owenhinton98 t1_j9zkd22 wrote

I wouldn’t exactly call densifying and urbanizing “lack of comprehensive city planning”…if the casualty of this is a more transit- and pedestrian-friendly area, then so be it. You simply can’t live in a city and expect everything to be accessible by car; it’s a give and take

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