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hoobsher t1_ixvq9sb wrote

Reply to comment by bierdimpfe in We should just stop trying to recycle by RoverTheMonster

reducing is definitely the main concern, but it's hard when convenience is a major purchasing factor for working parents who just need to make sure they have the shit they need for their families as easily as they can. as long as people are thoughtlessly making babies (and abortion/contraception isn't easily accessible), reducing will be difficult.

reusing is very difficult when just about everything you buy, recyclable or otherwise, comes with cheap single use packaging or is itself cheap and made for limited use. this was easier when glass, metal, and wood were more common packaging material, but now it's all paper and plastic that can be reused, optimistically, a few times for limited applications.

so either we learn to get really good at recycling really fast, or we force companies to make shit that is actually durably, reliably reusable. or we convince people to be more judicious about where they nut

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2019Cutaway t1_ixvz2l7 wrote

Vasectomy is the greenest behavior.

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VanVeen t1_ixx4cy0 wrote

Oh no, the economy needs more bodies! Someone, make more meat for the machine!

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collectallfive t1_ixx4j99 wrote

It's not a "thoughlessly making babies" problem. People need more time during the day/week. There is literally no reason anyone needs to be working more than 40 hrs a week, much less 20 hrs a week.

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hoobsher t1_ixxdgaa wrote

i agree. but which is more likely? a massive federal minimum wage hike attached to one of the biggest labor rights advances in the last century, or someone realizing that they shouldn't be dropping kids when their life is already expensive enough?

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throwawaythedo t1_ixyo36b wrote

We force them to be more sustainable by not buying it. Let’s be real, humans don’t need that much garbage.

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hoobsher t1_ixzmb6x wrote

we do when we expect the comforts of modernity. even if we overhaul all commerce to avoid waste, food and medicine still need to be kept clean, and reusing the packaging on that stuff or using degradable packaging is just unsafe

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