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Mkb_South t1_j0jyl7z wrote

I had to read that a few times to realize what was wrong, Chinatown is a single cultural hub, while Africa is a whole continent. Seems odd to me that it’s so unspecific.

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jbphilly t1_j0l3czq wrote

Chinatown has businesses from a ton of different countries, not to mention that China is a huge country and contains lots of subcultures.

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AM_Bokke t1_j0kvpg1 wrote

You mean China is a singular cultural hub right? There are ethnic minorities in China of course but most Chinese people are Han Chinese and the country is very homogeneous. Where as Africa is diverse as hell.

To me, this is just another example of how race in America is so screwed up and really doesn’t make any sense.

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uptown_gargoyle t1_j0kwgiz wrote

I think there are fewer barriers for Chinese people who want to trace their specific ethnic or cultural roots back to China than there are for African people who want to track theirs back to Africa. Hence the existence of Pan Africanism.

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AM_Bokke t1_j0kxcoy wrote

I take your point.

But most Black people that are descendents of the slave trade are from West Africa. Ghana, Ivory Coast, Sierra Leone, etc. We know that. Their ethnic group status is impossible to know though, correct.

Are recent Somali immigrants Black? Most Somalis would say no, but our government lumps them in as Black. Somalia is no where near the Atlantic coast and the slave trade.

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uptown_gargoyle t1_j0kzem5 wrote

>Are recent Somali immigrants Black? Most Somalis would say no, but our government lumps them in as Black. Somalia is no where near the Atlantic coast and the slave trade.

Idk. Different countries have different racial taxonomies so it'd be hard to establish an objective measure of who's Black and who isn't. A person who'd be categorized in the US as Black might be considered Coloured in South Africa.

I'm not sure whether "Black" in the US connotes a particular relationship to the slave trade.

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TonyUnclePhil t1_j0nhyrb wrote

This has nothing to do with slavery descendants or really even “black Americans”

Immigrants from all the countries you named live in Philly, and a good number live in Southwest

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AM_Bokke t1_j0nky6l wrote

The other guy brought up pan Africanism.

The point is that Africa is not a culture unless you are using something else to put all of the diverse cultures in Africa into one category. Since this is America, that category is the Black race.

It’s lazy and dumb. That’s my point.

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KingRon429 t1_j0nhgsb wrote

Because Southwest Philly has a large number of immigrants from various African countries

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uptown_gargoyle t1_j0kvjx6 wrote

can we build the arena there?

jk

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Deciduous-Trees t1_j0lj03n wrote

Hmmm good thought but, instead of building it in an enclave within a residential district, I think it's better directly on top of one of the 3 main transportation hubs of the entire region (which very importantly promotes SEPTA usage), while still preserving the history and culture of any neighboring enclaves that may have established themselves directly smack in the center of the region's commercial district.

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PedestrianMale t1_j0lefxy wrote

I can't wait for northern Europe town to open. It'll have authentic foods like beer and pretzels.

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