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uptown_gargoyle t1_j0kwgiz wrote

I think there are fewer barriers for Chinese people who want to trace their specific ethnic or cultural roots back to China than there are for African people who want to track theirs back to Africa. Hence the existence of Pan Africanism.

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AM_Bokke t1_j0kxcoy wrote

I take your point.

But most Black people that are descendents of the slave trade are from West Africa. Ghana, Ivory Coast, Sierra Leone, etc. We know that. Their ethnic group status is impossible to know though, correct.

Are recent Somali immigrants Black? Most Somalis would say no, but our government lumps them in as Black. Somalia is no where near the Atlantic coast and the slave trade.

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uptown_gargoyle t1_j0kzem5 wrote

>Are recent Somali immigrants Black? Most Somalis would say no, but our government lumps them in as Black. Somalia is no where near the Atlantic coast and the slave trade.

Idk. Different countries have different racial taxonomies so it'd be hard to establish an objective measure of who's Black and who isn't. A person who'd be categorized in the US as Black might be considered Coloured in South Africa.

I'm not sure whether "Black" in the US connotes a particular relationship to the slave trade.

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TonyUnclePhil t1_j0nhyrb wrote

This has nothing to do with slavery descendants or really even “black Americans”

Immigrants from all the countries you named live in Philly, and a good number live in Southwest

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AM_Bokke t1_j0nky6l wrote

The other guy brought up pan Africanism.

The point is that Africa is not a culture unless you are using something else to put all of the diverse cultures in Africa into one category. Since this is America, that category is the Black race.

It’s lazy and dumb. That’s my point.

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