User_Name13 t1_j5u42vd wrote
Reply to comment by boundfortrees in How a Philadelphia antiviolence grant improperly funneled $76,000 to city police staffers by PhillyAccount
This isn't the responsibility of the taxpayer and it goes way beyond the mandate of city government.
Is the city sitting on so much money that they can casually throw around hundreds of millions of dollars like this every year? Especially on programs that can't even be proven to be effective.
How about instead of spending $200 million on these lofty ideals, they focus on things that traditionally fall within the realm of city government?
Like, gee I don't know, fix the roads?
Fix the water lines that regularly flood parts of the city.
Ya know, the actual work of government.
Philly can't even get the buses to run on time, but they think city government can facilitate something like this?
A model that hasn't been proven to do what it purports to do anywhere else?
That magic is going to happen here in Philly first?
I seriously doubt it.
This from the people that can't manage garbage collection effectively.
Indiana_Jawns t1_j5u6d82 wrote
>Like, gee I don't know, fix the roads?
I guess it doesn't matter if the streets are red with blood if there aren't any potholes. But don't forget that when the city reengineers the roads to make them safer your just complain about that causing congestions.
>Philly can't even get the buses to run on time
Philly doesn't run SEPTA, you should know this.
>A model that hasn't been proven to do what it purports to do anywhere else?
Anti violence intervention works, the fact that you keep saying it doesn't doesn't change that.
User_Name13 t1_j5u838a wrote
>Anti violence intervention works, the fact that you keep saying it doesn't doesn't change that.
Then why were there 516 murders in the city last year?
The second bloodiest year in the city's history, but the anti-violence programs are working?
Make it make sense.
Indiana_Jawns t1_j5u9q9t wrote
"I took cold medicine 5 minutes ago but I still have a cold! This medicine is useless!"
Because, as you know because it's been explained to you multiple times, anti-violence programs take multiple forms, Some are short term interventions and others are longer term solutions. Philly's anti-violence program is brand new and has barely had any time to show results, but you were calling it a failure from the start.
User_Name13 t1_j5uag20 wrote
>Some are short term interventions and others are longer term solutions. Philly's anti-violence program is brand new and has barely had any time to show results, but you were calling it a failure from the start.
So how many billions will the city have to spend before these anti-violence programs can point to any tangible result?
$1 billion?
$10 billion?
I can't help but think there's better ways to use those funds in a poor city than doing the work that parents are supposed to do.
Parents are supposed to teach their kids not to engage in violence.
This goes way beyond the mandate of city government.
The fact that the city is wasting $200 million on this would be funny if it weren't so sad.
scatterbrainedpast t1_j5x5yd4 wrote
Its crazy youre being downvoted. What makes anyone think this city can manage funding organizations that have zero oversight and no metrics that can objectively be measured.
As you noted, this city can't even collect fucking garbage.
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