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ThreePointsPhilly t1_j6awkez wrote

But that’s not fully SEPTA’s failure - it’s society’s failure! SEPTA can’t solve homelessness or mental health issues.

Good idea, force the unhoused and people with mental health challenges back on the street, so now the Reddit can complain that there are more people sleeping on the sidewalk. I’m sure enforcing fares will magically make these problems go away.

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NonIdentifiableUser t1_j6awwun wrote

It’s not SEPTA’s burden to solve or even mitigate these problems. It shouldn’t be a controversial take to suggest that we should be able to take a train without worrying about being attacked, or stepping in excrement, or any other number of unpleasantries.

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ThreePointsPhilly t1_j6ax7nf wrote

100% agree with you. But paying customers can attack you! Are we going to stop intoxicated people from riding too? I’m sure they could cause some unpleasantries too!

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cruelhumor t1_j6baros wrote

So... the answer is that we can't solve ALL the problems, so we shouldn't even try? Is there a chance that a paying customer could attack you? Sure. Is that probability higher if you encourage people to gather on the trains and platforms for reasons other than their intended purpose? Absolutely.

If I can't regularly use a system for it's intended purpose (getting from point A to point B without being attacked, stepping in excrement, or arriving at my location reeking of weed) then that is a problem.

We need to fund other city services, that is the reality, and it is unfair to expect those of us that have to rely on SETA to pay for the fact that no one wants to fix those other programs. SEPTA is not a free public toilet, ashtray or homeless shelter, it's my only way to get to work, make money, and pay taxes. Respect the Ride.

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ThreePointsPhilly t1_j6bg98e wrote

We should try to solve problems! I’m not saying we shouldn’t try.

One way we try trying something new. Like free transit.

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