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XiphosAletheria t1_jc5pd56 wrote

> subjective awareness can never be described in logical, rational terms, or

Well, given that all we have is our subjective awareness of things, and that we came up with logic and reason, that is sort of self-evidently false. What subjective awareness can't be described in is scientific terms, which is different. Science requires empirical observation, but we can't observe someone else's subjective awareness by directly. It also requires repeatability, but subjective awareness is too malleable for that.

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dellamatta t1_jc5unmw wrote

Given that all we have is subjective awareness, and that we came up with logic and reason, that is self-evidently false? I don't understand your line of thinking here. Logic and reason is a subset of subjective awareness, as you say. So how can logic and reason describe subjective awareness in its totality? It can't - it can only ever point to it or hint at it in some way. That's the point I'm making. Furthermore, logic and reason aren't good mechanisms to explain this totality, as they are extremely rigid and limited subsets of it.

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