Submitted by Azmisov t3_11qjmwp in philosophy
Theletterkay t1_jc6468s wrote
Reply to comment by Jskidmore1217 in A philosophical dive into “Everything Everywhere All at Once” by Azmisov
So are you believing that the rock world was still somehow a physical evelyn? Cause I see that as a major flaw in your reasoning.
And im surprised no one here is talking about the obvious depression and shame that led Joy to feeling so lost. I felt the whole movie was her searching for a universe that could explain why she felt worthless because if things outside of her control. Then she seeks what everyone does, comforting. Whether in the acceptance of a loved one, or in leaving it all behind, they just took it to a very extreme sci-fi level. It wasnt just suicide, it was ending all of her, everywhere, all at once. The pain if life and the reality that it will be there no matter what choices she makes, make her angry and want to bring the attention of others to the answer she found. Which is that the universe is fucked and not worth existing in. She finally finder her mother who understands and fights to change, but the pain is so deep that she thinks it would be better of her mother joined her in death. Why wouldnt someone want to free their entire existence from pain? And once you've settled that suicide is freedom from pain, its pretty difficult to win you back.
Maybe I've just known too many people who have commit suicide because if feeling there was nothing for them in life, no joy, no hope, no comfort. The idea of exploring an endless number of possible different lives and still finding the same end result would only further that need to just end it.
Jskidmore1217 t1_jc65tuw wrote
I don’t see a flaw. If we can grant the possibility of an arrangement of matter that somehow mirrors human consciousness as it exists in our current universe in rocks, then I think it’s fair that given infinite variations that some of these universes will contain rocks with the exact same form of consciousness as Evelyn’s. It’s absurd but is logically consistent with MWI. If we don’t grant that possibility- I would simply ask .. why not? It’s not like modern science has a firm enough grasp on human consciousness to rule it out.
I think what you write about themes of depression and suicide is well written and an important part of the film. I suppose I have just generally left those themes as an unspoken assumption when I mention themes of absurdism, as the question of suicide is a core tenet of Camus absurdism.
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