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iiioiia t1_it3lw3z wrote

Reply to comment by fencerman in [Peter Harrison] Why religion is not going away and science will not destroy it by BasketCase0024

> so in most cases there's nothing for science to "destroy".

I think a sound argument could be made that the "scientization" of society's representation of reality has caused significant harm to the recruitment efforts of religions.

Some people think this is a good thing, some people think this is a bad thing, most people do not wonder what the actual truth of the matter is. One would think that an increasingly scientific culture would have increased interest in what is true, but that seems highly questionable to me.

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fencerman t1_it3mam1 wrote

> I think a sound argument could be made that the "scientization" of society's representation of reality has caused significant harm to the recruitment efforts of religions.

I think a sound argument could be made that "scientization" of a wide range of values, institutions and other non-scientific ventures has cause significant harm to science.

By labelling a whole range of capitalist western cultural values, practices and structures as "scientific", ranging from capitalist economics, western "racial" categories, political institutions, etc... the failures in those structures and the genocide and discrimination they've enabled have permanently made a lot of people skeptical about the whole idea of "science" across the board.

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iiioiia t1_it4bczl wrote

> I think a sound argument could be made that "scientization" of a wide range of values, institutions and other non-scientific ventures has cause significant harm to science.

True....but they are so far ahead and have so much momentum, I am very confident they are fine.

Now, if a rival ideology was to arise....well, they may not be as resilient as they would have been if they'd monitored their flock more carefully. Time will tell I suppose.

> By labelling a whole range of capitalist western cultural values, practices and structures as "scientific", ranging from capitalist economics, western "racial" categories, political institutions, etc... the failures in those structures and the genocide and discrimination they've enabled have permanently made a lot of people skeptical about the whole idea of "science" across the board.

For their sake, let's hope someone doesn't come along who'd be so shallow and opportunistic as to exploit that weaknesses, and the many other ones.

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