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IAmNotAPerson6 t1_it6pu1j wrote

So two things. First, the thought of the story of human life being meaningful if the outcome is a just society is a strange one, especially considering the deemphasizing of telos earlier on (focusing on process instead of projects). This is not only because it focuses on the end of a project, obtaining a just society, but because life goes on after that's obtained. There's no end to history, so it can always be changed, and potentially for the worse, for society to become unjust again, and thus the story of human life becoming unmeaningful once again. The only way out of that I see is for humanity to be extinguished on a good note somehow.

The second and more important thing to me is the focus on atelic activities. Like I agree it's obviously better that if we are able to derive meaning/feel good/have fun/be happy/have a good reason to live/live well/etc at least more through the atelic processes than telic ones then that would be fantastic because those are the activities that make up almost all of life. But I don't know how to think of those as the most meaningful for myself and desperately want to. Somebody please help with that lmao

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BryKKan t1_it8uoze wrote

I agree to an extent. But a 50 million year just society, even if it fell eventually, would be a worthwhile legacy to leave. Maybe that's beyond us, but something more brief, yet still fantastic, doesn't lose it's meaning because it ends.

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IAmNotAPerson6 t1_it8yjw7 wrote

I agree, just pointing out the lapse in good reasoning in the interview.

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