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[deleted] t1_itqchru wrote

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CharonsLittleHelper t1_itqmne9 wrote

>but really what we want is a more romantic relationship with nature again

When did that ever exist on a large scale?

It's always feels like that's part of the "noble savage" mythos which didn't actually ever happen.

Poets/writers talking about it? Sure. But not at large.

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[deleted] t1_itqtok7 wrote

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setionwheeels t1_its3qiq wrote

To support what OP says - although I am not a historian and can't confirm larger sentiment - if you read Chief Seattle's letter to the government you get that perspective.

Wholeheartedly agree with that perspective in the sense that we are ..ants crawling around and buying and selling land is kinda like buying and selling planets - we actually never OWN shit in the first place. Pretty sure nature is going to be fine, been around for billions of years, we nurse from it for a bit and it graciously allows us to not die for a bit.

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cristobaldelicia t1_itqqjl3 wrote

It may be too late. Much of the world may be turning into a "MadMax" hellscape. I think you're greatly underestimating how central fossil fuel tech is too our global civilization, not just "tech" generally. Forget social media. As far as Boomers, I think you're throwing stones from a glass house. Boomers are intimately familiar with the "romantic relationship with nature" because it was called "being a hippie" back in their day!

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bac5665 t1_itqr7k0 wrote

You want something that never existed. We have never had a more "romantic" relationship with Earth than we do today.

But that's a second order problem with your comment. The first problem that needs to be addressed is that we need to define "romantic" and we need to understand what outcomes that relationship with nature has that differ from the outcomes of other relationships, and then determine which set of outcomes is more appealing based on predefined criteria. If you say you want something, you need to provide evidence to support why that thing is desirable. Otherwise you're just stating an aesthetic preference.

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