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PortalGunHistory t1_itwil9s wrote

“It means to make one’s own evaluation, absent of external bias…”

You are really stretching if you think antivaxxers (or at least Covid deniers) are making their decision “absent of external bias.”

What greater bias than the desire to get back to normal, not be told what to do, and not have your life inconvenienced, disrupted, or in some cases put into financial turmoil?

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Several-Guarantee655 t1_itwpqs8 wrote

In my mind, there is a difference between those who are overtly and repeatedly speaking out or otherwise being loud in general for years against vaccines(Not just this one vaccine, but the entire concept of vaccines), and those who make very personal decisions about their own health and what they choose to put in their body on a case by case basis in a private manner. The only reason we even know about his situation is that he happens to be a public figure and was no doubt hounded until he spoke on the topic.

I don't recall reading anything about him denying that covid exists. Perhaps i missed it? Beware the straw man.

And to address your third point, there has been some evidence coming to light in the news recently that in fact the vaccines have not been effective at all in stopping transmission of the virus. There has been news and information showing quite the opposite. But I'm not here to have s debate on the efficacy of any vaccine, let alone this one. I'm no expert on the topic. Just relaying some of the data points as i don't accept your statement as an argument without question. Surely there are many asking very tough questions about all of that right now. We'll maybe know more as time goes on.

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dragonsmilk t1_itwskfg wrote

My only issue is that vaccines for contagious diseases are not necessarily a personal or private matter.

What if a new strain of covid made your penis fall off with 20% likelihood. And the chances of spreading it were reduced to 0 if vaccinated. Would you be invested in your neighbors getting the vaccine?

I think there'd be broad political support for everybody getting the vaccine so that we could preserve everyone's penises. Even if mandates be required for the crazy, malicious and/or stupid.

Same idea but with the variables slightly tweaked.

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